Last night I noticed Nastia being at number one in party chat tips,this morning I noticed that changed to Marissa Fairbanks (I think that was the name and CrystalX was number two) and now getting home from work I login and see that Sheryl actually won? I don't think you all made the contest very clear as it seems the only way to really win was not in each category but an accumulative total of pumpkins,regular tips,and party chat tips.Nowhere in the rules did I see this being stated,it simply looks as if a model can win in each category which now I see was not the case at all.This poor girl Nastia worked her heart (and vagina) out for 12 hours straight and put on some really great parties and everyone in her room (including her) saw her stay at the number one position and guys were even helping out with tips to keep her there.She logged off tired as hell but satisfied she had won and everyone there thought the same thing.

What it looks like to me is that we as the customers got a bit scammed and this isn't the first time this kind of crap has gone on around here.I remember another model who used to work here,confident she was winning a contest and stayed in first place and the contest ended with her being in the number one spot.Until the next day when oops,all of a sudden things were "adjusted" and she didn't end up winning after all.She was so pissed off I talked to her and she was going to quit here immediately until I talked her out of it (eventually she left anyways even if she was popular here) and this is just one example and a glaring one at that.It also is not very transparent that the totals are added up once every hour,well why is that? you lack the knowledge and software to calculate totals on a minute by minute basis? and why hide the numbers each girl has? well I do know why,its so we cant see whats really going on and like sheep we keep pressing that buy credits button thinking we are helping a model out when all that's happening is we are lining the pockets of VS and no one including the models has any idea whats going on until the next day when things are "adjusted".I personally will no longer be a part of any contest here,even if the top prize is one million dollars to the model I wont be involved and I am sure I am not the only one to see this total lack of transparency and obvious sleight of hand in these supposed "contests".I wont be involved in seeing girls work themselves to absolute total exhaustion thinking they have a chance when the truth is they are simply pawns in a game that's being played by this company to generate revenue from unsuspecting members using an underlying tone of "Help your model win!" to generate a certain "guilt factor" inside a members head if he doesn't help his model win.Most of us who have been around a while know who the real winner is in these contests and it isn't us or the models for sure,and while I don't mind companies doing what they can to make a profit I do mind when the game isn't played fairly and accurately with immediate results, not 24 hours later and 3 adjustments later to the top position.

Before I get attacked on this point I am not calling out any models that participated in this contest,congratulations to those who did win.I am simply venting a frustration with this company and problems with these contests and the complete lack of forthcoming that have gone on long enough.If I missed seeing something in the contest that stated accumulative totals is what wins for that day then please tell me,but If I missed something then a hell of a lot of other members did too,models included. Quote

Sheryl won the most credits in a paid show contest, not the scary contest. It was confusing with numerous contests running concurently during the Halloween weekend. She was in the lead a good part of the contest and finished out on top. And congrats to her she put in over 12 hours herself. Not easy what these girls do.

Doesn't look like they released the winner of the scary contest yet. But yes you are right, some of these contests are definantly predetermined for "certain models"

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Lets just remember that McNabb (NFL quarterback) didnt know the rules for overtime; that befuddles the mind. It cant be argued that the NFL failed to make the rules available or spell them out clearly.
Most of us never read the fine print, think we have it, and come to find out ... we dont, and never did.
7 years and I've not seen a single contest "fixed".
VS catches enough flack from the McNabb's; stands to reason they wouldn't 'fix' contests so they can catch even more.




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7 years and I've not seen a single contest "fixed".






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7 years and I've not seen a single contest "fixed".









You must have taken last year during the holidays off then.

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Lets just remember that McNabb (NFL quarterback) didnt know the rules for overtime; that befuddles the mind. It cant be argued that the NFL failed to make the rules available or spell them out clearly.
Most of us never read the fine print, think we have it, and come to find out ... we dont, and never did.
7 years and I've not seen a single contest "fixed".
VS catches enough flack from the McNabb's; stands to reason they wouldn't 'fix' contests so they can catch even more.








Actually I didn't state that the contest was fixed nor did I state that the contests are skewed to certain models.My problem is with the way the contests are being handled and the lack of transparency in them.Fine print aside I think its ridiculous to have the top position "adjusted' 3 times before a winner is declared and I am talking about Sunday the 31st in particular.Also results being tallied so slowly is a concern,if you see a model in a top spot and the contest ends and she is still there then naturally you assume she has won.You dont expect to come back later to find not only has she not won but another model got posted as being number one then she dropped off 8 hours later and an entirely different model was declared to be the winner.Also to not show minute to minute tallies besides each models name is something that should send up red flags to everyone.The technology has existed for quite a long time now to do running scores that are up to date,the only explanation is this company chooses to simply not put it to use,When you are shown to be number one at the end of a contest then you damn well expect to have won it.


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Last night I noticed Nastia being at number one in party chat tips,this morning I noticed that changed to Marissa Fairbanks (I think that was the name and CrystalX was number two) and now getting home from work I login and see that Sheryl actually won? I don't think you all made the contest very clear as it seems the only way to really win was not in each category but an accumulative total of pumpkins,regular tips,and party chat tips.Nowhere in the rules did I see this being stated,it simply looks as if a model can win in each category which now I see was not the case at all.This poor girl Nastia worked her heart (and vagina) out for 12 hours straight and put on some really great parties and everyone in her room (including her) saw her stay at the number one position and guys were even helping out with tips to keep her there.She logged off tired as hell but satisfied she had won and everyone there thought the same thing.

What it looks like to me is that we as the customers got a bit scammed and this isn't the first time this kind of crap has gone on around here.I remember another model who used to work here,confident she was winning a contest and stayed in first place and the contest ended with her being in the number one spot.Until the next day when oops,all of a sudden things were "adjusted" and she didn't end up winning after all.She was so pissed off I talked to her and she was going to quit here immediately until I talked her out of it (eventually she left anyways even if she was popular here) and this is just one example and a glaring one at that.It also is not very transparent that the totals are added up once every hour,well why is that? you lack the knowledge and software to calculate totals on a minute by minute basis? and why hide the numbers each girl has? well I do know why,its so we cant see whats really going on and like sheep we keep pressing that buy credits button thinking we are helping a model out when all that's happening is we are lining the pockets of VS and no one including the models has any idea whats going on until the next day when things are "adjusted".I personally will no longer be a part of any contest here,even if the top prize is one million dollars to the model I wont be involved and I am sure I am not the only one to see this total lack of transparency and obvious sleight of hand in these supposed "contests".I wont be involved in seeing girls work themselves to absolute total exhaustion thinking they have a chance when the truth is they are simply pawns in a game that's being played by this company to generate revenue from unsuspecting members using an underlying tone of "Help your model win!" to generate a certain "guilt factor" inside a members head if he doesn't help his model win.Most of us who have been around a while know who the real winner is in these contests and it isn't us or the models for sure,and while I don't mind companies doing what they can to make a profit I do mind when the game isn't played fairly and accurately with immediate results, not 24 hours later and 3 adjustments later to the top position.

Before I get attacked on this point I am not calling out any models that participated in this contest,congratulations to those who did win.I am simply venting a frustration with this company and problems with these contests and the complete lack of forthcoming that have gone on long enough.If I missed seeing something in the contest that stated accumulative totals is what wins for that day then please tell me,but If I missed something then a hell of a lot of other members did too,models included.


Marissa Fairbanks won the Tip contest for the females. After it updated a while midnight she showed #1. When the contests for credits is close, you never know until a while after midnight when the credits are realized for the contest. No idea why the software can't do it the minute they get out of a private chat. It would make it easier for all to see the changes as they happen Quote

Well according to the contest page it has sheryl as the party tip winner for sunday now.

How the site calculates who has won is more complex than trying to know what we guys have said to piss off a woman and when we ask them all they say is 'if you dont know, im not telling you.' Quote

I too was confused on this for awhile until I watched from the beginning one night. The contests start at midnight usually. When they start, no one has accumulated any credits yet so there is no standings update. Once a few girls have gotten some credits then the site updates the contest page, and this usually ends up being 15-20 minutes after the contest beginning (12:15-12:20am). The contest page then updates from that point once an hour every hour.

So if you waited around until midnight the following night and thought you saw a winner, what you saw were 11:20pm's standings. The final update wasn't until 12:20ish. Quote

Last night I noticed Nastia being at number one in party chat tips,this morning I noticed that changed to Marissa Fairbanks (I think that was the name and CrystalX was number two) and now getting home from work I login and see that Sheryl actually won? I don't think you all made the contest very clear as it seems the only way to really win was not in each category but an accumulative total of pumpkins,regular tips,and party chat tips.Nowhere in the rules did I see this being stated,it simply looks as if a model can win in each category which now I see was not the case at all.This poor girl Nastia worked her heart (and vagina) out for 12 hours straight and put on some really great parties and everyone in her room (including her) saw her stay at the number one position and guys were even helping out with tips to keep her there.She logged off tired as hell but satisfied she had won and everyone there thought the same thing.

What it looks like to me is that we as the customers got a bit scammed and this isn't the first time this kind of crap has gone on around here.I remember another model who used to work here,confident she was winning a contest and stayed in first place and the contest ended with her being in the number one spot.Until the next day when oops,all of a sudden things were "adjusted" and she didn't end up winning after all.She was so pissed off I talked to her and she was going to quit here immediately until I talked her out of it (eventually she left anyways even if she was popular here) and this is just one example and a glaring one at that.It also is not very transparent that the totals are added up once every hour,well why is that? you lack the knowledge and software to calculate totals on a minute by minute basis? and why hide the numbers each girl has? well I do know why,its so we cant see whats really going on and like sheep we keep pressing that buy credits button thinking we are helping a model out when all that's happening is we are lining the pockets of VS and no one including the models has any idea whats going on until the next day when things are "adjusted".I personally will no longer be a part of any contest here,even if the top prize is one million dollars to the model I wont be involved and I am sure I am not the only one to see this total lack of transparency and obvious sleight of hand in these supposed "contests".I wont be involved in seeing girls work themselves to absolute total exhaustion thinking they have a chance when the truth is they are simply pawns in a game that's being played by this company to generate revenue from unsuspecting members using an underlying tone of "Help your model win!" to generate a certain "guilt factor" inside a members head if he doesn't help his model win.Most of us who have been around a while know who the real winner is in these contests and it isn't us or the models for sure,and while I don't mind companies doing what they can to make a profit I do mind when the game isn't played fairly and accurately with immediate results, not 24 hours later and 3 adjustments later to the top position.

Before I get attacked on this point I am not calling out any models that participated in this contest,congratulations to those who did win.I am simply venting a frustration with this company and problems with these contests and the complete lack of forthcoming that have gone on long enough.If I missed seeing something in the contest that stated accumulative totals is what wins for that day then please tell me,but If I missed something then a hell of a lot of other members did too,models included.


I won the pumpkins contest in FRiday (29 october) and I also won the top girl in paid shows (31 october) I didn;t even participate to the party chat tips contest.It is messed up.
They announced the winners in models forums.
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I too was confused on this for awhile until I watched from the beginning one night. The contests start at midnight usually. When they start, no one has accumulated any credits yet so there is no standings update. Once a few girls have gotten some credits then the site updates the contest page, and this usually ends up being 15-20 minutes after the contest beginning (12:15-12:20am). The contest page then updates from that point once an hour every hour.

So if you waited around until midnight the following night and thought you saw a winner, what you saw were 11:20pm's standings. The final update wasn't until 12:20ish.



Still doesn't make it right in my opinion.If that's the way it is then models should be told that's what actually happens and it should be explained that this is the format clearly and concisely.As Sheryl just said she wasn't even participating in the party chat contest so why did she win it? If a contest ends and a model is shown to be in the number one position and she goes to bed happy as hell she won only to find out the next morning her number one standing meant nothing.How would you feel if someone yanked 500 dollars away from you that you thought you won? I imagine you wouldn't feel too happy about that.VS messed this up plain and simple,Nastia was in the number one position for party chat tips when the bell rang at 11:59 est Sunday night.It isn't rocket science,when you are shown to be number one at the contest ending then you should have won,I don't know how much more simply I can explain that.And I respect Sheryl for coming here and posting that something isn't right as well and I congratulate her on her other wins VS needs to make this right,end of story. Quote

As Sheryl just said she wasn't even participating in the party chat contest so why did she win it..and I respect Sheryl for coming here and posting that something isn't right as well and I congratulate her on her other wins

Sheryl didn't win the party chat contest, Marissa Fairbanks won. You didn't follow what Sheryl wrote. She was saying the page reporting the winners is messed up, and that the real winners were announced in the model forum. The contest page was correct last night after the final update, showing Marissa in 1st, Crystal X in 2nd, and Nastia in 3rd. Why it's screwed up now who knows.

As for rocket science, you're right it isn't so I'm not sure how you aren't able to follow it. Nastia was not number one at the contest end, she was number one at the penultimate update. Every single contest on this site has updated late the same way. The results aren't final until the winners are announced the next day, the same way if you ever watched horse/dog racing the placement you see at the end of the race is unofficial until the judges weigh in.
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to reply to the original topic. The whole contest stuff was a cluster fuck.
They originally said we are going to do the scary, sexy, and so fourth contest. Then like a day prior changed it all up. They decided hey we want pumpkins, BUT never announced they were no longer doing the original idea as well. I, myself was ill with this, but what can ya do. So ultimately there was no prize to be won as far as the scary contest went. Hope this helps
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Sheryl didn't win the party chat contest, Marissa Fairbanks won. You didn't follow what Sheryl wrote. She was saying the page reporting the winners is messed up, and that the real winners were announced in the model forum. The contest page was correct last night after the final update, showing Marissa in 1st, Crystal X in 2nd, and Nastia in 3rd. Why it's screwed up now who knows.

As for rocket science, you're right it isn't so I'm not sure how you aren't able to follow it. Nastia was not number one at the contest end, she was number one at the penultimate update. Every single contest on this site has updated late the same way. The results aren't final until the winners are announced the next day, the same way if you ever watched horse/dog racing the placement you see at the end of the race is unofficial until the judges weigh in.



Irregardless of how its setup it is not clearly explained to be this way,everyone is just supposed to guess that these contests update in this way? why is it no one gets the point here? These contests are NOT clearly explained in how things are tabulated and what time contests end and never have been in the years I have been here and at least at a dog or horse race I can see the winner on a video screen and pretty much know asap if I have my winner.Not 24 hours later,I imagine most tracks would go broke if they announced winners in 24 hours.The point is and I re-iterate once again,these things are NOT clearly explained and why did the official winners get announced in the model forums and not here? don't we all have a right to know who "officially' won seeing as how we spent our hard earned money here? anyways money and time should be an easy thing to calculate and update,why 24 hours? and why once an hour? I mean whats the point of that? the winner is the winner,period.There is no photo finish or judges decisions that should even have to be made.


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its not a dog track, its a sex site, giving away "freebies" and sharin' the wealth betwixt their employees. all announcing winners does is promote catty hatred and false congratulatories amongst the ladies. If it was your favorite chick, you'll hear about it, from her. If you was in it for the candy, haha..well put it this way..ever heard how much money it costs to manufacture a penny? its like 6 cents. they spend six cents to make 1. thats just downright economical. congrats to the winners and those who came in first and those who bought it. yay. Quote

God why didn't I just stay away from here... I will take my own advice from now on I spoke my peace about it,I am done here. Quote

God why didn't I just stay away from here... I will take my own advice from now on I spoke my peace about it,I am done here.


I understand what you say. Nowadays I stay away from charged topics in the Forums for the same reason.
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I had thought I lost, until the final update. Nastia worked lots of hours i had heard, but even though I worked about 6.5 hours I put on a HUGE show and had a lot of members in my room that had tipped me. I thank Nastia for giving me great competition, Shes a very pretty girl, and wish her best of luck in the contest yet to "cum" ;)

Even though it was party chat... and i was tipped to undress out the costume... I still had on actually both costume ears.. haha My members wanted my cat and devil ears on together to be an evil pussy hehe so i was prepared for it all... MMMEEOOWW lol

so thank you all for your help, support, and fun convos! your all the BEST(models too) i welcome all in my room, i dont care as long as you say hi, and or whisper to say who you are. i love to have fun chats with all in my room...

See you all when im back on :D
xoxoxo MF

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Guys and Girls it would appear that the main site pages about the contest differ to what has actually happened and reading what the performers have posted here, to what they have been told in the model's forum.

As evidence of this I post below a copy of a post I made in the VIP's General Discussion forum two hours into the day of the advertised RANDOM DRAW for one Girl and Guy who had achieved 10000 credits in Private on Saturday 30th October.
I was suspicious something was wrong when, as I said, 2 hours into that day they were showing the names so far as a ranked list (first second third etc) and also including the names of performers who had not even been online yet on that day.


FOR TODAYS CONTEST IT SAYS IN THE CONTEST DETAILS:-

Saturday 30th $1,000 Random Draw Contest

One girl and one guy will be selected at random from a list of all performers who generated at least 10,000 credits in paid shows. Each selected performer will receive a $1,000 cash prize! Vote for your favorite performers by taking them a Private!



It is now only 2 hours into the contest for Saturday 30th assuming it started at 00.01am Eastern US time.
How then can we already have models in the view CURRENT STANDINGS list for TODAY's $1,000 Contest who according to their BIos have not yet been online today the 30th October?
Also why is it a ranked list and not just a list of the names of models who have achieved the 10000 credits to get their names into this draw?


Unfortunately nobody has commented on this post nor corrected me if my facts were incorrect.

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