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Female Performer Chat: Advice to the Models
Hot4U669
Created by: hot4u669

5/18/10 @ 9:56am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Posts: 23

This will probably be deleted, but I write this with only the best of intentions. Most places around the world are going through tough economic times. I realize that the models are entitled to a fair rate for there shows. Most models charge $6.00 a minute for a private or multi-user show. I am not cheap, but due to the tough economic times it would benefit the models to charge a reduced rate. They will benefit from getting more private shows. There are some models who I would like to see, but they are charging $7 or $8 a minute for a private show. Even though these models are very beautiful, they are cutting down the number of customers who would take them private.

If a model charging $8.00 a minute for a private show and gets 5 20 minute private shows a shift, she makes $800.00. However if a model charges $5.00 a minute and gets 12 20 minute shows shows a day, she makes $1,200 a day, a $400 increase. This is just something to consider.

Also, the models need to give us a chance to get to know them before we take them private. The models using Semi-Private and Multi-User rooms are not maximizing their customer base. If I don't know a model and get an idea of how accomodating she will be in a private show, I will not enter a Semi-Private or Multi-User room and risk the chance of being disappointed.

I hope the models will consider my suggestions as a good faith effort to help them.

Thank you

Bryanna Spanks
Created by: Bryanna Spanks

5/18/10 @ 10:17am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

This will probably be deleted, but I write this with only the best of intentions. Most places around the world are going through tough economic times. I realize that the models are entitled to a fair rate for there shows. Most models charge $6.00 a minute for a private or multi-user show. I am not cheap, but due to the tough economic times it would benefit the models to charge a reduced rate. They will benefit from getting more private shows. There are some models who I would like to see, but they are charging $7 or $8 a minute for a private show. Even though these models are very beautiful, they are cutting down the number of customers who would take them private.

If a model charging $8.00 a minute for a private show and gets 5 20 minute private shows a shift, she makes $800.00. However if a model charges $5.00 a minute and gets 12 20 minute shows shows a day, she makes $1,200 a day, a $400 increase. This is just something to consider.

Also, the models need to give us a chance to get to know them before we take them private. The models using Semi-Private and Multi-User rooms are not maximizing their customer base. If I don't know a model and get an idea of how accomodating she will be in a private show, I will not enter a Semi-Private or Multi-User room and risk the chance of being disappointed.

I hope the models will consider my suggestions as a good faith effort to help them.

Thank you








Multi-user has an open chat room, that is free. But you can join in on the show, when other memebers are in show with that model.
Myself, I use whatever show type I am allowed to use, given my mood, and if I know someone(s) want me in that show type.
The only thing that sucks about it, is that sometime, people assume I am in semi-pvt all the time, if that happens to be the first time they come to my room. Not a very fair guess to be made, but it happens.

I would suggest, if there is a model you really like, and want to see her, but get more time for your money, email her, instead of posting about it here. If it's someone you have chatted with a lot, she will probably understand, and you two can make a date. But keep in mind, we can't always charge a cheaper rate, just because you would like it. It's up to F4F. ~Bryanna~
Mindy Love
Created by: Mindy Love

5/18/10 @ 10:41am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

Also please realize the models are not taking 100% of those profits, not even close
Created by: alberich

5/18/10 @ 10:51am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Location: breaking in, shaping up, then checking out
Posts: 970

This will probably be deleted, but I write this with only the best of intentions. Most places around the world are going through tough economic times. I realize that the models are entitled to a fair rate for there shows. Most models charge $6.00 a minute for a private or multi-user show. I am not cheap, but due to the tough economic times it would benefit the models to charge a reduced rate. They will benefit from getting more private shows. There are some models who I would like to see, but they are charging $7 or $8 a minute for a private show. Even though these models are very beautiful, they are cutting down the number of customers who would take them private.

If a model charging $8.00 a minute for a private show and gets 5 20 minute private shows a shift, she makes $800.00. However if a model charges $5.00 a minute and gets 12 20 minute shows shows a day, she makes $1,200 a day, a $400 increase. This is just something to consider.

Also, the models need to give us a chance to get to know them before we take them private. The models using Semi-Private and Multi-User rooms are not maximizing their customer base. If I don't know a model and get an idea of how accomodating she will be in a private show, I will not enter a Semi-Private or Multi-User room and risk the chance of being disappointed.

I hope the models will consider my suggestions as a good faith effort to help them.

Thank you





HOT4U669 when will you burry your permanent complain about semi, multi and model rates.
First check the matter then make your opinion and keep it for yourself. If you don't like it - stay away.
It's up to the model (or her/his studio) which rate they use. I take a model to private not because of the rate I make my choice if I like her.
Most of the models who use semi are also in standard open chat. So meet them there and you will get to know them.
Same with the multi-user option. If the model is not in private she is in open chat (see Bryannas reply).
Flirt for Free is a site for having fun - it's not a bazaar where they bargain the price. Furthermore it's the way of economics to demand a individual rate. If they earn more or less with a lower rate shouldn't be your concern. They have to pay with the money they earn their living and their expenses. At least here in Germany things didn't get cheaper only because of the economical crises - why should a model lower her rate?

I hope you will reply at least once to the statements you start ... but probably we will have same sh.. in a new thread in about 10 days

Just my :twocents
Danielle
Created by: Danielle

5/18/10 @ 11:12am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

Well I think u shouldnt worry about whats best for models here , each model works for the rate and at the type of chat which is the best for her , so while for some works semi pvts the best for others the premiere are much better , i dont think there is anything wrong with model working at premiere if she likes it . Yet lm pretty sure if u like the model and want her to go to the cheaper chat option she might do it for u, so u could get it the way u want :guitar
hfactor_
Created by: hfactor_

5/18/10 @ 11:22am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Location: Hanging with the Princess
Posts: 1,102

Also please realize the models are not taking 100% of those profits, not even close



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G-Mann
Created by: g-mann

5/18/10 @ 11:24am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Location: Teddy's BBQ Place in Hello Kitty Land on Route 66
Posts: 9,786

This will probably be deleted, but I write this with only the best of intentions. Most places around the world are going through tough economic times. I realize that the models are entitled to a fair rate for there shows. Most models charge $6.00 a minute for a private or multi-user show. I am not cheap, but due to the tough economic times it would benefit the models to charge a reduced rate. They will benefit from getting more private shows. There are some models who I would like to see, but they are charging $7 or $8 a minute for a private show. Even though these models are very beautiful, they are cutting down the number of customers who would take them private.

If a model charging $8.00 a minute for a private show and gets 5 20 minute private shows a shift, she makes $800.00. However if a model charges $5.00 a minute and gets 12 20 minute shows shows a day, she makes $1,200 a day, a $400 increase. This is just something to consider.

Also, the models need to give us a chance to get to know them before we take them private. The models using Semi-Private and Multi-User rooms are not maximizing their customer base. If I don't know a model and get an idea of how accomodating she will be in a private show, I will not enter a Semi-Private or Multi-User room and risk the chance of being disappointed.

I hope the models will consider my suggestions as a good faith effort to help them.

Thank you




A good faith effort to help them? Get serious. It has to be said... quit being a little whiny bitch and just go private when you want. There are many many beautiful women here with great personalities and if you don't want to take one private because she is in premiere or another type of room you do not like, then take another one who is not. Don't complain about something which is not an issue. Why would you even think that a model who is in a standard room charging 60 credits per minute gets the $6 a minute? Why do you not understand that multi-rooms do have free chat? The models here work very hard for what they do receive and it is their decision or their studios on what type of room can be used and how much to charge, so if you don't like it, don't let the door hit you on the way out. If ignorance is bliss, you must be a very happy person
:twocents
Created by: VS_Brad

5/18/10 @ 11:49am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Location: California, USA
Posts: 3,429

While not 100% on-topic, this forum is about "Straight Fantasies". Ending this here.

Brad
naz895
Created by: naz895

5/18/10 @ 12:02pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Posts: 5

This will probably be deleted, but I write this with only the best of intentions. Most places around the world are going through tough economic times. I realize that the models are entitled to a fair rate for there shows. Most models charge $6.00 a minute for a private or multi-user show. I am not cheap, but due to the tough economic times it would benefit the models to charge a reduced rate. They will benefit from getting more private shows. There are some models who I would like to see, but they are charging $7 or $8 a minute for a private show. Even though these models are very beautiful, they are cutting down the number of customers who would take them private.

If a model charging $8.00 a minute for a private show and gets 5 20 minute private shows a shift, she makes $800.00. However if a model charges $5.00 a minute and gets 12 20 minute shows shows a day, she makes $1,200 a day, a $400 increase. This is just something to consider.

Also, the models need to give us a chance to get to know them before we take them private. The models using Semi-Private and Multi-User rooms are not maximizing their customer base. If I don't know a model and get an idea of how accomodating she will be in a private show, I will not enter a Semi-Private or Multi-User room and risk the chance of being disappointed.

I hope the models will consider my suggestions as a good faith effort to help them.

Thank you




Is this topic number 4 or 5 in regards to semi private, multi user and prem chat?? I sort of lost count.

Anyways I read through what you had to say and just have to say stop saying your just thinking of the models best interests. You are thinking of your best interest and what you want. Maybe you don't fully understand how the various show types work.

Multi-User:
The model can pick various prices per minute. I don't know the exact choices but I have seen between 40 and 70 credits per minute in multi user. Why is multi user good for a model??? Because if 10 people enter a show all at the same time and go for 10 minutes. The model basically just got 100 minutes of privates all in only 10 minutes. This allows the model to earn much more during his or her time online. Do I like multi user? No. Will I take a model private who uses multi user? Yes. Do I like when another member joins my show halfway through and changes the pace of it? No. So what do I do? I visit the models room a little more often. Get to know the girl. Go multi user when I can. Then once the model knows me a little I send the model an email and ask if she could log into normal chat sometime so I could have a 1 on 1 show with no interruptions. And I have never had a model say no. Because she knows if she logs in at the time we discussed she will have a private for however many minutes I said I would go for.

Semi Private
30 credits per minute. The model does not earn as much here. But if the model always has beggars in his or her room. Or has people causing problems whether is is jealous models or jealous members semi private is the answer. If you wanna type to the model. You have to pay. If you wanna show. You pay. It is 50% cheaper per minute so even spending a low $30 on a girl you have never spoke to before gets you 10 minutes. Which is plenty of time to see if you like the girl or not. And even with how bad our economy is. Anybody that plans to buy a private can spare $30 to see if the girl in semi private is worth spending more time with. So the model needs twice as many privates to earn the same money she earned in regular chat. But doesn't have people ruining his or her mood. And lets face it. A pissed off model doesn't look happy. And I don't know about you. But if I see a model always miserable I don't take them private. Semi private is similar to multi user because more then 1 person can enter the show. But nobody sees what the other writes. And just like multi user. If you get to know a girl in semi a little and email her asking if she will go on regular chat for a 1 on 1 private trust me. She won't say no because she earns more per minute there.

Prem Chat:
Ok I will be honest. I never visit these rooms. It is not because the girls are not attractive, smart or funny. It is because 60 credits per minute was expensive enough when I first joined. But the thought of 70-120 credits per minute is just too much for me. So... do these models miss out on privates from people like me and you? Yes of course they do. But are these models starving for minutes? Not even close. When I first heard about prem chat i laughed and said these models will never get 70-120 credits per minute.... But boy was I wrong. These models are in private more then open. One private ends and 5 or 6 guys rush to click Go Private to beat the rest in there. Also don't forget if a girl is charging 120 credits per minute. and was in prvt 4 hours she earns double what she would have earned in 4 hours of regular chat. I see you talk about 5 20 minute shows on prem chat earning $800 and 12 20 minute shows being $1,200..... but this math is based on "assuming" the girl will only get 5 in prem chat and 12 on regular chat. So if that is your argument to the girls. I guess I could argue that lets say the girl charging 120 credits per minute works on Monday for 4 hours. And is in private all 4 hours.... She would earn $2,880.00. but then on Tuesday the same model logs into normal chat for 60 credits per minute. also works 4 hours and is in private for the full 4 hours again. She would only earn $1,440.00 .... So using your "what if" theory could basically mean the model lost 50% of her pay because of working in normal chat... If you girls can get people to pay 70 - 120 credits per minute then good for you and keep doing it.

I know the forum is for people to express their opinions. But you have expressed the same opinion 4-5 times always starting a new topic. This is just getting old. And you say your not cheap. And that the models best interest is what you are thinking of. But if this was true you would look at the pros and cons from their point of view instead of your own point of view. Don;t worry about the models unless they ask your advise when it comes to price per minute and what they could do to earn more money. Because if these models were hurting for $$$$ they would be charging 30 credits per minute or looking for another job.

BTW yes I know you girls do not earn even close to 100% of the cost per minute so the math is 100% off. Just trying to base it off the current math already in the topic.
paperpunch09
Created by: paperpunch09

5/18/10 @ 12:04pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Location: USA
Posts: 3,146

I'm 100% sure that the models here don't need your advice.

Furthermore, why the hell do you keep ragging on this topic---it does no good. It just makes people :mad :mad :mad

Like I said in another thread: "Shit or get off the pot"---meaning either ignore models who use the types of shows you don't like or quit bitching.

It's that simple.

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