another reason why i set these up is for the regular members to have at least one place each week to congregate and be able to talk to each other as well.




...actually there should be a room only for members to talk to each other. It could be 'Don'tTouchMeBro' category.

I feel often a need to go off cam and let the guys talk to each other

Maybe I will open my room for two hours a week for your congregations and I will do some nail polishing that time, mask on face or books reading? Quote

thanks for the feedback! always love to hear what the models are thinking

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Hey there g-diddy,
I have read several of your post and they have been very helpful. I understand what you mean by starting a client base for new girls; but with your parties, do you think that the chatters will be paying more attentiion to one another and not the girl. I am in premier now and sometimes I may have an old customer from when I was in standard come by and I will happily go back to standard to do a private for the normal rate. But even with out the parties, if my room is full, I find the customers talking to each other all the time and fighting with each other which usually ends up with me being put out of the lime light. I guess my point is, is there a point when to much interaction between the customers may be a bad thing for the model? Quote

I see that we get the same point Carla Quote

thanks ladies!

i completely understand your points and i also wondered the same thing. the simple answer to this is "we'll have to wait and see". i only have one week's worth of data to go on, and it's kinda skewed because the model ended up having to come on way later than we anticipated, so a lot of the peeps left before she got there. her feedback was positive though as she was only on for about an hour and got three pvts out of it (and her first anal pvt!) if these parties aren't doing anything for the model then we can easily get rid of them. model feedback will be critical in this area.

what i'm hoping for is that when those members who just bounce around in rooms get to this one they'll see it busy, stick around, and hopefully go pvt with the model. it's also to introduce people to the models they might not normally go see and hopefully become regulars.

for a lot (not all) of the new models they get a night full of boring chat most (again, not all) times until they get established. so if anything else hopefully it'll make a night the model was gonna be on here anyway more enjoyable!!

above all else we have to look at not only the short term results, but long term as well. maybe that particular night the model doesn't see an increase in pvt time.. but what if these parties gets them three or four new members who regularly visit their room after that wouldn't have even gone in that room if it weren't for the party? Quote

And who will choose model's room? There are so many fresh faces and only one friday per week

It has to be fair - it would be bad if other models would feel upset cause of not chosing her.

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And who will choose model's room? There are so many fresh faces and only one friday per week
It has to be fair - it would be bad if other models would feel upset cause of not chosing her.


Maybe, just maybe, we can do 2 per week. This way we #1 get to make the rounds faster #2 maybe some members that can not make one can make the other.The think tank will get together to figure it out Quote

That's very funny. And very true.

Not to be the grammar police, gdiddy, but I think you meant 'formerly' fri. night chat parties.

So many rules...honestly, I think this is going to make a lot of people angry. And I don't think you need more data to figure that one out. Even twice a week is only eight times a month. Many girls, not just premiere, will be excluded.

Also, as a member I'm only here for the girls--call me crazy. I do not find the idea of the couple of rooms I frequent being taken over every now and then by some club particularly appealing. That's the problem with creating a club of users inside a pre-existing club(i.e. this site). It has a way of excluding the people already here.

Girls being selected by a club of regular users within the site is not why I became a member.

I don't really care what you do. But maybe organizing something with friends through a chat system off-site would step on fewer toes.

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That's very funny. And very true.
Not to be the grammar police, gdiddy, but I think you meant 'formerly' fri. night chat parties.
So many rules...honestly, I think this is going to make a lot of people angry. And I don't think you need more data to figure that one out. Even twice a week is only eight times a month. Many girls, not just premiere, will be excluded.
Also, as a member I'm only here for the girls--call me crazy. I do not find the idea of the couple of rooms I frequent being taken over every now and then by some club particularly appealing. That's the problem with creating a club of users inside a pre-existing club(i.e. this site). It has a way of excluding the people already here.
Girls being selected by a club of regular users within the site is not why I became a member.
I don't really care what you do. But maybe organizing something with friends through a chat system off-site would step on fewer toes.
Sorry if this wasn't the type of increased forum activity you were looking for.



I meant that's very funny and very true "Loona." Forgot to quote your 'dont touch me bro' post. Very funny.
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I think its good bc I would love a few more regulars.. I had a slow start so I have a few (very loyal sweethearts) regs, but I usually only get one in my room per show, and sometimes that is the only person talking to me, so I do not mind the extra company.

I dont think models will be too mad, its not really a club I dont think, Im sure anyone can join in, its just that these guys have agreed to work on it together and you dont have to do it if you dont want to...
It could be kinda like "New girl feature show" but not just for VIP members. And everyone can get one, it just takes a while to rotate.

Plus Im pretty sure that if models want these shows they can speak up, and it will be easier to organize when each model gets their turn :D
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I think its good bc I would love a few more regulars.. I had a slow start so I have a few (very loyal sweethearts) regs, but I usually only get one in my room per show, and sometimes that is the only person talking to me, so I do not mind the extra company.
I dont think models will be too mad, its not really a club I dont think, Im sure anyone can join in, its just that these guys have agreed to work on it together and you dont have to do it if you dont want to...
It could be kinda like "New girl feature show" but not just for VIP members. And everyone can get one, it just takes a while to rotate.
Plus Im pretty sure that if models want these shows they can speak up, and it will be easier to organize when each model gets their turn :D


Not a "real" club

ANYONE can join - A female model also goes too [She will tell if she wants]
Model ALWAYS should direct the conversation

Remind them we are there to visit her 1st and foremost
Promoting new models , having fun [BOTH model and members] , and seeing on occasion established models

This was NEVER to upset anyone
gdiddy is a good person and loves to help

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i do appreciate everyone's forum activity regardless of your opinion on the matter!

first off, i like gmann's idea of two a week on different days. i'll see what the schedules look like.

::quote_begin I do not find the idea of the couple of rooms I frequent being taken over every now and then by some club particularly appealing. That's the problem with creating a club of users inside a pre-existing club(i.e. this site). It has a way of excluding the people already here.

But maybe organizing something with friends through a chat system off-site would step on fewer toes.


if you're afraid that your chat will be "taken over", what i do want to point out is that we will not just be dropping into random rooms whenever we feel like it. these will be set up in advance to promote that particular model for the evening.. so that also gives members reading the forums plenty of advanced notice which room we will be in (and which room to not be in if you don't want to participate). ashlynn was correct in her analogy of the "new girl feature show" and that's precisely what it is. considering we've only had one so far, i'm taking all the feedback, both good and bad, with a grain of salt. if these truly are upsetting people we will stop doing them, but so far i've received an overwhelmingly positive response which tells me that a lot of people are, in fact, not angry about them.

it's all about getting an increase in traffic to the room for the new models. which in turn will, hopefully, provide more pvts or at least more opportunity for them. veteran models are not going to be focused on because they don't need the increase in traffic as much as the new ones, but we do want to include the veterans as part of the fun so we will be doing one or two a month as well. i hold many parties at my home throughout the year and not one person has ever referred to them as being in a "club", so as soon as we charge a membership fee or you get a special t-shirt or something you can call it a club, but until then we will call it what it actually is: an open invite for anyone to party at a particular place on a certain night - no one is excluded.

also your two points contradict each other. while on one hand you make an argument against creating a "club" in general that is going to "take over" chat rooms, you then propose the idea of organizing that same "club" off-site with friends. i'm just curious which point you were trying to make? i try to be as courteous as possible in these threads, but if your gonna start picking apart the details in other peoples posts, you should probably line your ducks up first.

to me the site is about enjoyment on all accounts; from the interaction with the models, to these forums, to the interaction with other members. and as stated numerous times before, these parties were created to increase that enjoyment. while it will be cool for the members to interact with each other, they are being held with the model in mind.. we're hoping to take one day of their time on flirt and make it extra fun for them. i love the girls i frequent and love helping the newbies get settled in and make that money. it's all about trying to help and hopefully that's what these will do! Quote

let me try this again with the quotes actually working
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i do appreciate everyone's forum activity regardless of your opinion on the matter!

first off, i like gmann's idea of two a week on different days. i'll see what the schedules look like.

I do not find the idea of the couple of rooms I frequent being taken over every now and then by some club particularly appealing. That's the problem with creating a club of users inside a pre-existing club(i.e. this site). It has a way of excluding the people already here.

But maybe organizing something with friends through a chat system off-site would step on fewer toes.


if you're afraid that your chat will be "taken over", what i do want to point out is that we will not just be dropping into random rooms whenever we feel like it. these will be set up in advance to promote that particular model for the evening.. so that also gives members reading the forums plenty of advanced notice which room we will be in (and which room to not be in if you don't want to participate). ashlynn was correct in her analogy of the "new girl feature show" and that's precisely what it is. considering we've only had one so far, i'm taking all the feedback, both good and bad, with a grain of salt. if these truly are upsetting people we will stop doing them, but so far i've received an overwhelmingly positive response which tells me that a lot of people are, in fact, not angry about them.

it's all about getting an increase in traffic to the room for the new models. which in turn will, hopefully, provide more pvts or at least more opportunity for them. veteran models are not going to be focused on because they don't need the increase in traffic as much as the new ones, but we do want to include the veterans as part of the fun so we will be doing one or two a month as well. i hold many parties at my home throughout the year and not one person has ever referred to them as being in a "club", so as soon as we charge a membership fee or you get a special t-shirt or something you can call it a club, but until then we will call it what it actually is: an open invite for anyone to party at a particular place on a certain night - no one is excluded.

also your two points contradict each other. while on one hand you make an argument against creating a "club" in general that is going to "take over" chat rooms, you then propose the idea of organizing that same "club" off-site with friends. i'm just curious which point you were trying to make? i try to be as courteous as possible in these threads, but if your gonna start picking apart the details in other peoples posts, you should probably line your ducks up first.

to me the site is about enjoyment on all accounts; from the interaction with the models, to these forums, to the interaction with other members. and as stated numerous times before, these parties were created to increase that enjoyment. while it will be cool for the members to interact with each other, they are being held with the model in mind.. we're hoping to take one day of their time on flirt and make it extra fun for them. i love the girls i frequent and love helping the newbies get settled in and make that money. it's all about trying to help and hopefully that's what these will do! Quote

LickaU I am not saying anything bad about anyone. I'm pro-model and pro-member.I am not going to debate this at length. I do not care for this idea. As I said, I do not really care what you do. However,

About the models:

�it's all about getting an increase in traffic to the room for the new models.�

Other than the forums, I am unaware of any marketing tools you possess.

�if these truly are upsetting people we will stop doing them, but so far I've received an overwhelmingly positive response which tells me that a lot of people are, in fact, not angry about them.�

If you look closely, not all model sentiment has been universal. Many are not exactly in a position to argue with a member either. Also, if I may, your feedback seems largely to come from your own group.

About the regulars:

�so that also gives members reading the forums plenty of advanced notice which room we will be in (and which room to not be in if you don't want to participate).�

Simply, I resent that I would need to change what I was already going to do to avoid your group if I so choose, or to have to check the forums. I don�t buy that your group is inherently good for the model. For some, this is a slightly more private experience than I think you may realize, even in open chat. I want to keep this fun too.



This isn�t personal, gdiddy:

�I hold many parties at my home throughout the year and not one person has ever referred to them as being in a "club", so as soon as we charge a membership fee or you get a special t-shirt or something you can call it a club, but until then we will call it what it actually is: an open invite for anyone to party at a particular place on a certain night - no one is excluded.�

How do I put this delicately? This is a public internet chat room, not your home. While I understand you are enthusiastic and you feel you are pro-model, I respectfully suggest you may have overestimated the pleasure others may have found in your company. The model is the host. Not you. �Open invitation� or not, let�s not have a semantic debate about whether the word �club� applies to your group. Even at eight per month, many models will be excluded. And their regulars, who do not really need an invitation, could feel excluded in chat. Not everyone wants to participate with you or with other members.


�Also your two points contradict each other. while on one hand you make an argument against creating a "club" in general that is going to "take over" chat rooms, you then propose the idea of organizing that same "club" off-site with friends. i'm just curious which point you were trying to make? i try to be as courteous as possible in these threads, but if your gonna start picking apart the details in other peoples posts, you should probably line your ducks up first.�

I appreciate your courtesy, however back-handed. I�ll be sure to discipline my ducks. I think you misunderstood me. I dislike the idea of an onsite club which I think is apparent, not clubs in general. I know you are aware of other pvt messaging systems�don�t be coy. There are alternatives for you.

I honestly have no interest in having a debate. I am sure some models may like this. Are you going to guarantee them pvt.�s at your parties? Some may be under the impression that that is your intention. They certainly do get paid for feature shows. I don�t know if the new girls will think giving a free feature show is in their interest for very long. Besides, does anyone really watch the feature shows to chat with the other members?

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Reality is what the models want

Group has included a female model from this site who has made some visits - 1 organized only so far

Every model controls her room

Mainly a hello and greeting with a Welcome

It did increase some traffic and more privates [Some from this group]

I don't debate - Party for cookies and beer and lasagna and and and and

Maybe it was better UNorganized and still happenned with all happy then Quote

I want to add just a few words about this and I hope there are no responses by gdddy or mkoplo to this one post. I think the back ad forth on the topic is useless, as I am sure you both feel also. So let's move forward and agree to disagree.

LickaU I am not saying anything bad about anyone. I'm pro-model and pro-member.I am not going to debate this at length. I do not care for this idea. As I said, I do not really care what you do. However,
About the models:
�it's all about getting an increase in traffic to the room for the new models.�
Other than the forums, I am unaware of any marketing tools you possess.
�if these truly are upsetting people we will stop doing them, but so far I've received an overwhelmingly positive response which tells me that a lot of people are, in fact, not angry about them.�
If you look closely, not all model sentiment has been universal. Many are not exactly in a position to argue with a member either. Also, if I may, your feedback seems largely to come from your own group.
About the regulars:
�so that also gives members reading the forums plenty of advanced notice which room we will be in (and which room to not be in if you don't want to participate).�
Simply, I resent that I would need to change what I was already going to do to avoid your group if I so choose, or to have to check the forums. I don�t buy that your group is inherently good for the model. For some, this is a slightly more private experience than I think you may realize, even in open chat. I want to keep this fun too.
This isn�t personal, gdiddy:
�I hold many parties at my home throughout the year and not one person has ever referred to them as being in a "club", so as soon as we charge a membership fee or you get a special t-shirt or something you can call it a club, but until then we will call it what it actually is: an open invite for anyone to party at a particular place on a certain night - no one is excluded.�
How do I put this delicately? This is a public internet chat room, not your home. While I understand you are enthusiastic and you feel you are pro-model, I respectfully suggest you may have overestimated the pleasure others may have found in your company. The model is the host. Not you. �Open invitation� or not, let�s not have a semantic debate about whether the word �club� applies to your group. Even at eight per month, many models will be excluded. And their regulars, who do not really need an invitation, could feel excluded in chat. Not everyone wants to participate with you or with other members.
�Also your two points contradict each other. while on one hand you make an argument against creating a "club" in general that is going to "take over" chat rooms, you then propose the idea of organizing that same "club" off-site with friends. i'm just curious which point you were trying to make? i try to be as courteous as possible in these threads, but if your gonna start picking apart the details in other peoples posts, you should probably line your ducks up first.�
I appreciate your courtesy, however back-handed. I�ll be sure to discipline my ducks. I think you misunderstood me. I dislike the idea of an onsite club which I think is apparent, not clubs in general. I know you are aware of other pvt messaging systems�don�t be coy. There are alternatives for you.
I honestly have no interest in having a debate. I am sure some models may like this. Are you going to guarantee them pvt.�s at your parties? Some may be under the impression that that is your intention. They certainly do get paid for feature shows. I don�t know if the new girls will think giving a free feature show is in their interest for very long. Besides, does anyone really watch the feature shows to chat with the other members?
just my .02


Now... I do see what both of you are saying and there are valid points in each end. I understand that a model would not want her room "taken over" by a group of members. That a model is here to do privates and make money. That there are some members who actually feel uncomfortable chatting in open. Those things said. The one thing that is most important is that the models need to REQUEST a party. The model knows that it is just a way for her to get noticed with, hopefully, extra traffic to her room. A day of members getting to know her which may increase future privates because of word of mouth "advertising" for her.

I don't see a "problem" for members who just happen to go into a room where a party is being held. The member will either stay and chat, talk to the model and go private, or go to another room. Just as they do now. I have personally gone into a room and observed the chat and sometimes decided it is not for me and moved on, sometimes I have stayed and enjoyed the company of a lovely model and some friendly members.

So basically... it comes back to one thing... models and members alike have preferences and can make their own choices. So let us, as I said earlier, agree to disagree.

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gdiddy....

I was gone for several months and it sucks that I wont be included in this visiting night..... Crappy I say just crappy... I was gone for over 6 months due to personal issues... why cant i be included..??


LOL I'm being silly today but I do feel left out dammit!!!


Kisses gdiddy

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And btw i do both premier and standard dammit..... I do think however a themed congregation is a happier congregation... Audio is a must in these situations... I think it is better in general anyways...



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gdiddy....
I was gone for several months and it sucks that I wont be included in this visiting night..... Crappy I say just crappy... I was gone for over 6 months due to personal issues... why cant i be included..??
LOL I'm being silly today but I do feel left out dammit!!!
Kisses gdiddy
in Paradise
Maria


No worries. There are new and more experienced model nights. There are just going to be more for the "Fresh Faces"

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I think, as a new model, this is a wicked idea. So what if that night I have only few privates but I have a good time and make new friends? Yeah the money is good and all but I still wanna have fun! So come on in and we'll party, have a good time and see where the night leads us! Quote