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Created by: purgatory

2/3/10 @ 7:02am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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Some more fun reading regarding Apple iphones and why you wont see flash on it..

http://www.phonesreview.co.uk/2010/02/03/flash-on-apple-iphone-would-work-steve-jobs-ado be-fights-back/

http://www.phonesreview.co.uk/2010/02/01/no-one-will-use-flash-in-future-says-s teve-jobs/

http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking-news/ci_14322649?nclick_check=1&forced=true

Anyone think it's time Steve Jobs finds a new hobby again ? I wish he would just say the iphone sucks and flash on it will show how slow it really is... :orglaugh

... iphone users wanting flash on your phones time to look for a Bill Gates phone windows mobile pro 6.5 on phones I mentioned above rocks, not had any problems and having lots of fun with doing stuff on it and adding things to it that you can't do on iphones because Steve Jobs says no no it's his device even after you paid for it.. :orglaugh

Keeping a close eye on the google android phones here but so far they seem like they need some more development to me, Nexus One being a good example good hardware but seems like it's got a lot of bugs yet.. probably by version 3 - 4 they will be good..

Suggs how you going with that new phone btw ? seems a nice phone any luck with flash sites ?

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Created by: suggs

2/3/10 @ 8:25pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Purg, I'll let you know when I get it, release has ben put back to start of march. So suffering with my 5800

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Created by: purgatory

2/4/10 @ 1:26am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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Purg, I'll let you know when I get it, release has ben put back to start of march. So suffering with my 5800

Sounds good suggs ty.

More funnies on the apple front for you.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/188482/cto_counters_steve_jobs_claim_that_adobe_is_lazy.htm l

Read the part "Steve Jobs made another public jab at Adobe, saying that the Flash Lite Player wasn't "advanced enough" for use on the iPhone, and that it performed "too slow to be useful.""

Read too slow as his device sucks and the operating system does a lot of tricks to make it look like it's fast when in reality its just programmers tricks. Stick any real software on it and it shows it's problems. Thats why every app on the app store has to get approved :winkwink

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http://blogs.adobe.com/conversations/

I think Steve Jobs needs to hire another Pepsi salesman to run the company... and if you know anything about the history of Apple you will know the outcome.. :orglaugh

Geeze really, he really has lost touch or has some master plan to mess up how we use our devices.

Anyway Apple at it's best again ... I'm taking bet he will bring out another NEWTON device soon ... :orglaugh

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Created by: vwgti

5/5/10 @ 10:07pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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++++++HTML5 Vs Flash+++++++

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Created by: suggs

5/6/10 @ 3:29am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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the flash version the phone uses is a mobile cut down version and flirt wont work with it -- I can read the forums but cant enter rooms.

And now if you try and access the site via Opera Mini web browser on a mobile - Flirt dont work at all.

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Created by: purgatory

5/6/10 @ 1:12pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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http://www.skyfire.com/

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Created by: suggs

5/6/10 @ 3:56pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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try skyfire browser :winkwink

http://www.skyfire.com/

I'll check it out - i think I can d/l it via Ovi store

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Created by: suggs

5/6/10 @ 8:21pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Skyfire works fine. Even in chat.

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Created by: purgatory

5/6/10 @ 9:09pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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Skyfire works fine. Even in chat.

:winkwink

Best browser I think so far for mobiles, not one site it has not worked on for me so far.

Fennec (Mobile firefox) has some promise if the add-ons in the future make it display things like flash correctly, will have to wait and see so far Adobe is out in an almighty war against Apple and companies trashing their flash ( I think they have a point about the trashing and HTML5 still is not in the mainstream and does not yet relate to real world ), also I have a feeling the next version of flash on mobiles will be really good and make the mobile browsers shine. So far skyfire fits the bill. Also I like platforms like flash that make it easy to make one application that works for all devices, as I said Apples has very narrow vision and this has always been the problem with Apple since day one.. This is why I try not to fund their "cult of insanity" by buying anything from them again. Any company in my mind in the I.T world needs to look at what is used now and what will come in the future, but most important thing is the now and what is used by their client base and allowing the client to choose what to put on their purchased devices not a company playing big brother as Apple is doing. iPad is another good example it's just an upscaled iPhone with the same limitations and Apple may face an anti-trust suit regarding all these limitations soon.. so says it all really... I hope they get nailed for what they are doing, it's not on what they have done.. let's hope they have a good app for good lawyers, because I have a feeling some of these lawyers in past that worked for them are going to bail out of this one. HTML5 is the future but not for a good while will it start being used as much as flash based versions of an application... check YouTube it's testing HTML5..

http://www.youtube.com/html5

Supported Browsers

Right now, we support browsers that support both the video tag in HTML5 and the h.264 video codec. These include:

* Google Chrome
* Apple Safari (version 4+)
* Microsoft Internet Explorer with Google Chrome Frame installed (Get Google Chrome Frame)

Just click at bottom of that page "Join the HTML5 Beta" and remember to click it again if you want to set back to flash based YouTube.

As you see it's limited to a very small handful of browsers so far..

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Created by: suggs

5/12/10 @ 10:47am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Well found 1 problem with Skyfire and the X6 -- I ca enter the rooms and see video feed, send emoticons fine BUT -- I anm unable to type any messages as my phone is a touch screen with a software based keyboard and not a proper tactile keyboard. so ho-hum.

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5/14/10 @ 3:26am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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Suggs I had same problem at 1st too with My Windows Mobile Pro 6.5 Toshiba TG01, I had to basically force the OS to allow me to use a different input method ( a different phone keyboard then the standard options it had) it was kinda complex thing to do and had to mess with the Phones OS on a low driver level. Also my phone in its natural way would work with skyfire and the flash chat only if I used a real USB keyboard (any normal USB keyboards a pc uses, it has native USB keyboard support built in) or a blutooth keyboard and mouse would allow skyfire and flirt4free chat to allow text input into the chat.

What I'm saying is im looking into this still and when I can come up with a fix for all Skyfire enabled browser phones or devices I will let you know and also I was thinking of passing some of my findings to Brad at VS and maybe ask him and his developers if they can look at the chat applet with skyfire and see why it does not allow the skyfire browser to detect it is an input area and for the virtual keyboard to pop up like normal.

Give me some time to play with it more it's in one of my hobby queues when not busy at work.. Just trying to figure out if it could be the flash player skyfire uses too and how it can hook into the virtual keyboard request to pop up and then allows you to enter into the chat box. Like you said everything on flirt4free works fine with skyfire only in the chat you can't type on it because the keyboard is not showing, the tips work, emoticons, text size etc but only the one thing. I hope VS are willing to maybe invest some time into it too and then they can also claim the site is Mobile device friendly or Skyfire ready. Only other option if that can't be made to work that way is for the flash chat applet to detect a mobile browser and display a virtual keyboard built into the flash chat itself.. or even speak to the developers of skyfire and ask them to maybe to look into such problems with their browser and flash based sites with input areas that are not seen as input areas for some reason like they are on real browsers say on PC or Mac.

Suggs BTW what version of skyfire are you using is it version 2.0 or 1.5 ? I think they did have a 1.5 for Nokia phones in past can't remember I know now it's version 2.0.

Regards

Nabil

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Created by: suggs

5/14/10 @ 4:12am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Suggs BTW what version of skyfire are you using is it version 2.0 or 1.5 ? I think they did have a 1.5 for Nokia phones in past can't remember I know now it's version 2.0.

Regards

Nabil

It's Skyfire for Nokia v1.5.0.15733

v2.0 is for android powered phones

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Created by: jonsmith

5/14/10 @ 1:36pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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I'm about to upgrade the firmware on my phone to Android 2.1 - I understand it still doesnt have flash on it but does support HTML5. is there any way I can view the vid/chat or even respond to flirt emails using my phone? what browser/apps do I need to install or am I SOL until flash comes out? thanks.

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Created by: purgatory

5/14/10 @ 11:34pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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Created by: ballycallan

5/15/10 @ 6:18am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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This free web browser will work on flirt4free and Android phones it has flash built into the browser.

http://www.skyfire.com/

skyfire on android 2.1 does not work fully with flirt. can access the site but not log into the chat rooms. tried it on the hts desire.

android 2.2 should be coming soon , and had promised full flash 10.1.

Also another was to get on flirt from iphone..... use teamviewer app . you can remotely use your PC from your iphone , so every thing you see on laptop you see on iphone screen. i have loged into chat rooms using that.

Bally

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5/15/10 @ 8:42am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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skyfire on android 2.1 does not work fully with flirt. can access the site but not log into the chat rooms. tried it on the hts desire.

android 2.2 should be coming soon , and had promised full flash 10.1.

Also another was to get on flirt from iphone..... use teamviewer app . you can remotely use your PC from your iphone , so every thing you see on laptop you see on iphone screen. i have loged into chat rooms using that.

Bally

Well Done Bally, see there is a app for everything. shame it does not seems to show the vid in full colour/motion but at least you can type. :thumbsup

I wonder if VS will be still using flash in 5yrs time

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5/15/10 @ 9:31am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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skyfire on android 2.1 does not work fully with flirt. can access the site but not log into the chat rooms. tried it on the hts desire.

You need to make sure JavaScrips are allowed for the top left login on top left to work.

You can login from here when the top login does not work

http://www.flirt4free.com/my-account/

But again to login to a room you will still need to make sure JavaScripts are Enabled in Skyfire.

Also another was to get on flirt from iphone..... use teamviewer app . you can remotely use your PC from your iphone , so every thing you see on laptop you see on iphone screen. i have loged into chat rooms using that.

Bally

That is just using a remote desktop application and not really what the phone can do and as you have seen can cause things like video to not display right or it stops and starts with 8bit colour to help reduce bandwidth while the remote desktop is running.

Not really ideal and requires you to have a computer for it to "work" I say "work" because really it's not working the computer is doing the work.

I will stick some pictures of it working on my phone later and the settings you need for skyfire to work right.

But as I said before entering text into the chat is a no go on it's default onscreen keyboard.

Regards

Nabil

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5/15/10 @ 9:40am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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++++++HTML5 Vs Flash+++++++

HTML5 needs to have better support for DRM, so far companies trying to use it are learning the hard way that HTML5 is not yet ready to protect their content even when they try to addon their own forms of DRM.. Guessing in the future DRM will be better supported within HTML5 but for now seems a no go for people wanting to protect their content.

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Created by: eccentricm

5/15/10 @ 10:31am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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I saw Ava Mendez typing away on flirt using her phone as the keyboard. I wouldn't put anything past this chick, shes multi-talented. Don't let the slurred speech fool you :drinkup

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Created by: purgatory

5/15/10 @ 11:57am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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I got an email now from skyfire developer and says ..

"With the current release of Skyfire text entry in Flash and Silverlight fields is not supported. The Skyfire team is looking at improvements to this for a future release."

... humm seems to be supported for me when using a USB or blutooth keyboard connected to the phone grrr, just the virtual one does not pop-up....

Not sure now where to go with this, only option I see is to wait for skyfire to get their act together or start coding some driver that will fit in with the default input devices so can select it from the phones input device list, without having to mess up other programs that require the toshiba keyboard or the default input devices... or flirt4free needs to add a virtual keyboard to the applet when it detects a mobile browser...

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