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brooklynboy718
Created by: brooklynboy718

9/3/10 @ 12:30am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Location: yo mama's house
Posts: 34

can someone explain to me how i have -1800 credits in my account?????? i KNOW i didn't get to enjoy any shows for an extra 1800 credits lol......HELP
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Cameron Knight
Created by: Cameron Knight

9/3/10 @ 12:43am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

can someone explain to me how i have -1800 credits in my account?????? i KNOW i didn't get to enjoy any shows for an extra 1800 credits lol......HELP



Emailed you the answer :)
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derfrocks5
Created by: derfrocks5

9/3/10 @ 1:37am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Location: On the Dark Side of the Moon
Posts: 532




Emailed you the answer :)



yeah I'm the same way, why is that?
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G-Mann
Created by: g-mann

9/3/10 @ 1:40am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Location: Teddy's BBQ Place in Hello Kitty Land on Route 66
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yeah I'm the same way, why is that?



frOcks.. call customer service and they will explain... Brad explained in a VIP thread, maybe he will post here too. But customer service knows all about the negative credits.
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derfrocks5
Created by: derfrocks5

9/3/10 @ 1:51am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Location: On the Dark Side of the Moon
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frOcks.. call customer service and they will explain... Brad explained in a VIP thread, maybe he will post here too. But customer service knows all about the negative credits.



thanks boss :thumbsup
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complainer
Created by: complainer

9/3/10 @ 5:22am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

i have almost -7000 credits apparently for transactions i made more than 3 months ago that didnt go through. i emailed customer support a few days ago for a better explanation but they have yet to respond. i have not bought any new credits since i found out that i have negative credits because quite frankly i dont want to pay that.
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craxy
Created by: craxy

9/5/10 @ 5:40pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Location: Skept City
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yeah I'm the same way, why is that?



Same here.
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carousel
Created by: carousel

9/5/10 @ 6:09pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Location: forgotten backroad standing still in time
Posts: 761


frOcks.. call customer service and they will explain... Brad explained in a VIP thread, maybe he will post here too. But customer service knows all about the negative credits.


Here's what G-Mann mentioned: It was in response to my post.



I can only relate to you my experience, though yours is probably quite similar;
Somewhere around Jul 1, you probably read but didn't quite grasped, like most of us, an e-mail telling you that some purchase charges during May were delayed in processing. Why it took @90 days to debit accounts with these charges no-one has ever explained.


One of our merchant banks had errors when processing those transactions, but told us that they went through fine. They deposited the money in our bank and we paid the performers. Then they came back to us and said, "oh sorry, those transactions never went through. We're taking the money back."




Nonetheless, when they did get processed, if, at that time, your (bank or charge card) account didn't have enough $$$ to cover the charges, your F4F account went negative.


That happened in a couple of cases. More common was that the charge was rejected because it had been too long. The bank re-processed these without asking us. When we learned about it we said, "hey, stop. No more." So another batch of transactions was just credited without even attempting to re-submit them.




As a pratical matter, this is/was accurate: credits were charged and they billed you, albeit, 90 days later. As a customer service matter though, this is/was quite poor & inconvenient.


Agreed, it has been a very unfortunate situation. The last of these reversals is due to process today and then it will all be behind us.

If you have questions, please contact support as they can lookup your account and give you more detailed information on which transactions were never charged, etc.

Brad

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carousel
Created by: carousel

9/5/10 @ 8:46pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Location: forgotten backroad standing still in time
Posts: 761


Though it may seem rather harsh, we all enjoyed the benfits of the credits we purchased, be it 1800 or 7000. Flirt has paid the models and rightfully, no matter how inconvenient it may be, deserves payment.

i have almost -7000 credits apparently for transactions i made more than 3 months ago that didnt go through. i emailed customer support a few days ago for a better explanation but they have yet to respond. i have not bought any new credits since i found out that i have negative credits because quite frankly i dont want to pay that.



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iDude
Created by: idude

9/5/10 @ 9:10pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Location: around here
Posts: 55

Do guys seriously not check your bank account statements? And then think "huh? I wonder why the $700 i spent the other day just disappeared?!"

Serves ya'll right to try to get one over on this site and the banks. Karma's a bitch!!!

Hmm -- wonder how many of ya'll are goin to try n open new accounts, lmao!!
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complainer
Created by: complainer

9/5/10 @ 9:48pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

Do guys seriously not check your bank account statements? And then think "huh? I wonder why the $700 i spent the other day just disappeared?!"

Serves ya'll right to try to get one over on this site and the banks. Karma's a bitch!!!

Hmm -- wonder how many of ya'll are goin to try n open new accounts, lmao!!



I've literally made over a hundred of flirt transactions over the time span of those missing transactions (over 3 months ago). I used to check them one by one but after some time it was just too much work. I received a list of uncharged transactions and they were not from one night of pvts but rather one transaction uncharged every few days or so.

And for your information, when people buy credits I don't think they have any intention of trying to "get one over" on this site or the bank. People buy credits and charge them to their cards. How are we to know if they get charged properly or not? Don't we just assume that if they gave us the credits then they must have charged the cards.

Anyway, like I said, I have hundreds of flirt transactions and how else could I check if I've already paid or have not paid for those transactions other than to go through each one. If flirt made a mistake, who's to say that they didn't make another? I won't be purchasing any more credits until I've verified myself that I indeed have not paid for those transactions.
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iDude
Created by: idude

9/5/10 @ 10:31pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Location: around here
Posts: 55




I've literally made over a hundred of flirt transactions over the time span of those missing transactions (over 3 months ago). I used to check them one by one but after some time it was just too much work. I received a list of uncharged transactions and they were not from one night of pvts but rather one transaction uncharged every few days or so.

And for your information, when people buy credits I don't think they have any intention of trying to "get one over" on this site or the bank. People buy credits and charge them to their cards. How are we to know if they get charged properly or not? Don't we just assume that if they gave us the credits then they must have charged the cards.

Anyway, like I said, I have hundreds of flirt transactions and how else could I check if I've already paid or have not paid for those transactions other than to go through each one. If flirt made a mistake, who's to say that they didn't make another? I won't be purchasing any more credits until I've verified myself that I indeed have not paid for those transactions.


Everyone I know keeps tabs on their actual bank and credit card accounts -- no matter how much money these people have. Actually, the more money the people have -- the more they seem to keep a closer eye on it. So it's difficult for me imagine how people wouldn't notice 1 or 2 thousand dollars not showing up as charges on their statements. If you're saying that you don't keep tabs on your accounts, then you sir, are an idiot.
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AssHoleLicks
Created by: assholelicks

9/5/10 @ 10:47pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

poor chap :orglaugh so what happens now? how is flirt gonna chase that 7000 credits back, i ve just checked mine, still on 0 phew :smoking
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brooklynboy718
Created by: brooklynboy718

9/5/10 @ 11:12pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Location: yo mama's house
Posts: 34

ummm no i check my statements against both memory and what appears here in my transaction history. after vs told me what the charge relates to i went back and re-checked my statements and never was my account credited back to the supposedly unpaid charge. i spoke to my credit card to ask if there was any reversals or charges that weren't paid on time and there was nothing out of the ordinary. my card does not wait for me to pay before it pays the vendors. if i get my statement and something appears fraudulent my credit card requires that i pay the amount, send a dispute letter and if it is reversed i get the credit. my credit card renews every year because every year i have to spend a certain amount to qualify for it. i sent all this to vs and what i got back from them made me feel like an 8th grader was dealing with this because all they did was basically re-state my complaint and i haven't heard from them since. if they wanna play games with me i can play right back by simply not making any more purchases.......and do any of you actually have any idea how much of what we pay goes to the models that you guys are so in defense of vs???? i'm guessing some of you think they get something like 90%-100% which, unfortunately, is a pipe dream. i've said my peace and if a model wants to know why i cant take them pvt i have no problem telling them it's because the site is trying to screw me. with all the research i've done on my end this can easily be attributed to embezzlement and they're trying to get us to compensate for their mistakes. i put myself through college basically working as a bookkeeper and i've personally found 6 figure double billing schemes just because things didn't look right and later discovered why. i don't care if its $10, $100, or a $1000 as my account is settled from every which way i can see and i'm not going to pay for the same service twice.
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Marilyn Martini
Created by: Marilyn Martini

9/5/10 @ 11:18pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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9/5/10 @ 11:19pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

sweetchilli
Created by: sweetchilli

9/5/10 @ 11:20pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 66

I have a had a similar experience in the past. This does not relate to the negative credits you are experiencing now but about 2 months ago I went to purchase credits and had a transaction error notification come up so I tried again with the same result. I knew I had the money in my account (using debit card) so tried later and it worked. When I checked my statement I found I had been charged for the 2 purchases that I got a transaction error for. I never received the credits yet they took my money. When I emailed customer service about this they were no help at all and kept asking me to check my account statement but did not get that my problem was not with my statement but with the fact I got charged for no credits received.
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iDude
Created by: idude

9/5/10 @ 11:45pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Location: around here
Posts: 55

i spoke to my credit card to ask if there was any reversals or charges that weren't paid on time and there was nothing out of the ordinary. my card does not wait for me to pay before it pays the vendors. if i get my statement and something appears fraudulent my credit card requires that i pay the amount, send a dispute letter and if it is reversed i get the credit.


Wow -- you have a pretty crappy credit card!!! My credit card company instantly reverses any charges I dispute -- THEN they investigate if need be. And yes, I have AMEX, Discover and VISA -- you're getting a con-job on your credit card, for realz ....
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brooklynboy718
Created by: brooklynboy718

9/6/10 @ 12:27am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Location: yo mama's house
Posts: 34

ummm no, i get 5% back on all purchases. its a specialty card. although it is a pain to dispute it works. regardless the card i have isn't the point.......
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carousel
Created by: carousel

9/9/10 @ 11:31am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Location: forgotten backroad standing still in time
Posts: 761


...if they wanna play games with me i can play right back by simply not making any more purchases.......and do any of you actually have any idea how much of what we pay goes to the models that you guys are so in defense of vs???? i'm guessing some of you think they get something like 90%-100% which, unfortunately, is a pipe dream. i've said my peace and if a model wants to know why i cant take them pvt i have no problem telling them it's because the site is trying to screw me. with all the research i've done on my end this can easily be attributed to embezzlement...



...how else could I check if I've already paid or have not paid for those transactions other than to go through each one. If flirt made a mistake, who's to say that they didn't make another? I won't be purchasing any more credits until I've verified myself...


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Some of us have been around here a whole lot longer than you ... but we're a bunch of idiots and wouldnt know if Flirt was into embezzlement until such a highly educated individual came along to tell us


Somewhere around Jul 1, you probably read but didn't quite grasped, like most of us, an e-mail telling you that some purchase charges during May were delayed in processing.


Obviously, this post was in error ... that @Jul 1 e-mail wasn't read at all !!!
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