To Brittany, Bete Noir and all of the models and users if this site

For 20 years it was my job to trash people, to crush them. I did it for personal gain and I did it very well. I am sure that some of you have seen some things I have written or said but never knew who said or wrote them. I made a lot of money but woke up one morning and found that while i had more money than I could count, that because no one could know what I was doing, I had no friends, no life and no happiness.

I say this not to brag as I am not proud of it. I say it only to explain the flashback I had the last couple of days.

Bete, I have read some of your posts and I see a common thread in them, "Guys, this is all about the business" That is where I think all of this starts and ends. I don't want it to be all about business. I am sure most of the users don't want it to be all about business. I understand that it is, like I understand that we all must die at sometime, but that doesn't mean I want to. The problem comes when we, as users are chatting away (And I am talking about the users who tip and treat the models well) and all of the sudden the business part slaps us in the face. It is a huge blow to our ego because we now do not know if the last 5 minutes or chatting with this beautiful woman was real or simply to get credits. Naive, I know, but I want to be naive, for i have been jaded for much to long. Now, like you bete, I am dancing on the head of a pin, but I want to make it clear here that I believe that the great majority of the models both enjoy the conversations but also want to get tips and get PVTs. It is not unlike someone who really enjoys their work. It is work and they need to make money but they still enjoy doing it.

All I am saying is that being banned when you are being courteous and tipping in room where you really like the model and are having fun is a real slap in the face and brings home very quickly, in a man's head anyway, maybe she was just putting up with me because she wanted money. That is our perspective, and is probably not the case. Bete I hope you will consider this point of view in the future, That is all I am asking

To Brittany, who I hurt with stupid accusations as I flashed back into my dark side, I truly apologize. When you come back online I will come into your room and if you like you can ban me. I deserve. If you don't I will never speak of this again and will continue to laugh and have fun in your room. It will be up to you. To the other models that I have visited lately and have been pissed at me, I also apologize, but ask you to read this post and try to see it from both sides. If you wish to ban me from your rooms I understand. To all of the users who had to put up with this the last couple of days I am sorry to put you through the drama. And finally to Bete Noir, You seem to be very tough but no one should be teated the way I came at you. No matter what you do I have no right to be wrong in my actions.

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To Brittany, Bete Noir and all of the models and users if this site

For 20 years it was my job to trash people, to crush them. I did it for personal gain and I did it very well. I am sure that some of you have seen some things I have written or said but never knew who said or wrote them. I made a lot of money but woke up one morning and found that while i had more money than I could count, that because no one could know what I was doing, I had no friends, no life and no happiness.

I say this not to brag as I am not proud of it. I say it only to explain the flashback I had the last couple of days.

Bete, I have read some of your posts and I see a common thread in them, "Guys, this is all about the business" That is where I think all of this starts and ends. I don't want it to be all about business. I am sure most of the users don't want it to be all about business. I understand that it is, like I understand that we all must die at sometime, but that doesn't mean I want to. The problem comes when we, as users are chatting away (And I am talking about the users who tip and treat the models well) and all of the sudden the business part slaps us in the face. It is a huge blow to our ego because we now do not know if the last 5 minutes or chatting with this beautiful woman was real or simply to get credits. Naive, I know, but I want to be naive, for i have been jaded for much to long. Now, like you bete, I am dancing on the head of a pin, but I want to make it clear here that I believe that the great majority of the models both enjoy the conversations but also want to get tips and get PVTs. It is not unlike someone who really enjoys their work. It is work and they need to make money but they still enjoy doing it.

All I am saying is that being banned when you are being courteous and tipping in room where you really like the model and are having fun is a real slap in the face and brings home very quickly, in a man's head anyway, maybe she was just putting up with me because she wanted money. That is our perspective, and is probably not the case. Bete I hope you will consider this point of view in the future, That is all I am asking

To Brittany, who I hurt with stupid accusations as I flashed back into my dark side, I truly apologize. When you come back online I will come into your room and if you like you can ban me. I deserve. If you don't I will never speak of this again and will continue to laugh and have fun in your room. It will be up to you. To the other models that I have visited lately and have been pissed at me, I also apologize, but ask you to read this post and try to see it from both sides. If you wish to ban me from your rooms I understand. To all of the users who had to put up with this the last couple of days I am sorry to put you through the drama. And finally to Bete Noir, You seem to be very tough but no one should be teated the way I came at you. No matter what you do I have no right to be wrong in my actions.

Thanks to anyone who actually took the time to read this.


Wrong post mate. You are really crazy to put yourself down. You are one of these guys who get over emotional.
You should be more proud of yourself, you did not much wrong: your earlier posts were honest, but this post is a joke.
Models should be ashamed banning people, just because they receive a big tip to do that.
Neither Britanny nor Bete is your boss. Be yourself dude. This website is just surrogate, better focus more on your normal daily life.

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That took balls! Good for you for admitting you were wrong! Quote

That took balls! Good for you for admitting you were wrong!


Is it matter of admitting being wrong or just being submissive to a number of people who think they own this website?

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Here's my

Don't think it's any shame to apologize for things you might have said in a hot head moment, gotta be a man to make mistakes but even more to assume and apologize for them.
About the site, I have been around for almost 10 years now and always heard "it's a business place" all along - do not disagree. But during this whole time I got to know that every single girl in here have her own reason to be here, refuse to believe that a girl is here for fun (sexually speaking) because I have met the most beautiful girls I have ever seen in my life in this place and most of them are a sweetheart so it's kinda impossible to think they couldn't have any man they want to. Found out too that come here is not as easy as it looks like, there is the money part obviously but there is the other part of the story as well and some days they might think it's not worth to be here - hence some girls I met that haven't seen here more than 2,3 times so I take my hats off for those who don't let people make less of themselves. IT IS a business place but if they don't make friends and have them around all along I think they would go crazy, so it's not ALL about the money as some like to claim - though, unfortunally, doesn't work like this for all the ladies in here.And if the fun part get lost doesn't make sense at all to be here...Well, but that's just my humble opinnion.
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valid points from you all

if you can not have fun here and can not use the site for chillout purposes___
then dont come here at all

if this or any adult entertainment site makes you more unhappy than you feel on the outside__
then dont come here at all

if someone here tries to make you feel you are a waste of space___
then either ignore them or do what i do,tell them to go fuck themselves haha!!

some people just love to pick a fight & take pleasure in making others feel small,the more you ignore them,the less they will target you

best word of advice i can give to the emotional members___
dont get emotional in the cyber world,save your emotion`s for the normal world,that`s where they are best suited

getting all emotional & unhappy here,defeats the whole purpose of being here & what the site`s were designed for.

great cyber fun,chilled out cyber entertainment,lovely women & guys doing there best {while combatting there own life problems} to make unhappy people forget there normal life problems & at the same time making great cash from there work so they can achieve some of there set goals in life

if you begin to bring your outside issue`s here___
then get out before its too late

you will not solve your problems on an adult entertainment site.

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Models have manipulated and ued members to get their money. They should apologize to the members.

It includes to get members private. Some have lied about feelings towards members.

Some have promised to hook up with members. The hooking up I believe violates the rules.

It is also true. Sometimes members misunderstand models' intentions. Both have been wrong.

It's best when a model is wrong. And she is confronted about it. It is not to deny it.

It is not to try to twist it. It is to admit it and apologze. Then let it drop.

It's if a member misunderstands a model. Just admit it and apologize. Then let it drop.

Some can't just be handled that way. It's why there are alternate ways. I hope this helps.

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all waaaaayyy too serious... chill! Quote

Models have manipulated and ued members to get their money. They should apologize to the members.

It includes to get members private. Some have lied about feelings towards members.

Some have promised to hook up with members. The hooking up I believe violates the rules.

It is also true. Sometimes members misunderstand models' intentions. Both have been wrong.

It's best when a model is wrong. And she is confronted about it. It is not to deny it.

It is not to try to twist it. It is to admit it and apologze. Then let it drop.

It's if a member misunderstands a model. Just admit it and apologize. Then let it drop.

Some can't just be handled that way. It's why there are alternate ways. I hope this helps.





any member who believes what they are told is the precise truth & think everything they read is gospel___

time for a reality check,get a grip dudes

haha!

all waaaaaaay too serious as kertus implies & too many coming here for an all waaaaaay too serious reason.

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Pink says it best:

This used to be a Funsite
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rock,do you really think harley give`s a shit what you just wrote haha!
harley___

another great model who helps make our ite what it is

funny & entertainment with deliciously gorgeous women

when harley CHOOSE`S to step down from her throne___

i`ll be the first to smell it haha!
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what fun.. yet another opportunity to make self serving and pompous observations... BAH Quote

it`s all about opinions bete,whether we like it or not,it is a democracy here

there are no oracle`s here,but certainly many orifice`s haha!

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what fun.. yet another opportunity to make self serving and pompous observations... BAH


Bete
simply trying to apologize, not be pompous or self serving.

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Bete
simply trying to apologize, not be pompous or self serving.





jsmac- I think that was very cool of u to say ur sorry and so openly too. That's a man not a boy- so My hats or bra whatever u prefer LOL is off to u my friend. Quote

Models have manipulated and ued members to get their money. They should apologize to the members.

It includes to get members private. Some have lied about feelings towards members.

Some have promised to hook up with members. The hooking up I believe violates the rules.

It is also true. Sometimes members misunderstand models' intentions. Both have been wrong.

It's best when a model is wrong. And she is confronted about it. It is not to deny it.

It is not to try to twist it. It is to admit it and apologze. Then let it drop.

It's if a member misunderstands a model. Just admit it and apologize. Then let it drop.

Some can't just be handled that way. It's why there are alternate ways. I hope this helps.







Not all models are created equal, neither are members. Do not judge me, I shall not judge you. Especially when we have not met.

I know I am not included in this thread, per se.. But your post seems to be directed to all models, hence why I speak my mind.

Some models put up with a lot from members, and vice versa. But when a member puts a model in tears, shame on member. We would not allow others to treat us thus, why should members be allowed? We are here to enjoy mutaul pleasure, not a model being put through the wringer at the members pleasure. If that is what member wants, then he/she should take model pvt, or find something else. Quote

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*stands behind Brad watching his finger over the BETEBAN button*

LMFAO@this place being a democracy. It's not, it never has been, and it never will be.

As to other aspects of this thread...it's called DUAL ROLES. Yes, you can be a friend to a model, and yes, you can also be a customer. What seems to be overlooked, time and time again in multiple threads (so I am just going to post it here), is that it sometimes reaches a point where a model doesn't need a friend, she needs rent money. It's hard to buy into the "oh, I'm your friend and here for you" or "I want to take a few weeks in chat to get to know you" BS when your landlord is knocking on your door demanding your rent, or you have medical bills. At that point, WE ARE ALL JUST CUSTOMERS, and if the model doesn't think you're going to buy a show, or tip, or whatever, she is going to focus on, and support, the chatters she knows will. Been there, lived it, sick of the clueless bastards who don't get it. So I just have fun on this side of things, and try to make models smile, laugh, and hopefully make their shifts more enjoyable.
The manipulative models comment...um... that's 90% of the job. To be the fantasy that you want them to be. Models who sit there and repeat "cum see my hot pvt" in reply to everything you say were probably taught to do so by their studio, and quite possibly the only English they know. Promises to meet in person could be brought on by the relentless pressure by whoever to do so. Taking a model private just to ask when they're going to meet up with you and let you fuck them is just awkward, and puts models in a bad spot. Lose the private show money that she uses to buy FOOD? Or keep it going for as long as she can and hope someone else steps in to buy shows when that guy finally bails. I can promise you that they aren't telling that particular lie to some random chatter who hasn't gotten a show before, or a chatter who isn't on the "game" list as a top spender. Again, a studio can play a part there too..."tell them whatever they want to hear to keep them in private".

Public apologies aside, both mine and others, this is a stressful occupation and I greatly admire the models who are able to hide that stress, and yes sometimes anger and tears, better than I was. There are a great many wonderful people here, customers and models alike, but reality is reality in the end, whether we like it or not. Just have fun, and don't take anything personally. It is, after all, just a video feed with words on a screen.

*skates off with her lovely partner Hazina, another shiny Manji throwing star in the air*
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Very touching comment Bete, but I'm sorry for frustrate your lines and anger by saying that over the years I DID keep in touch with most of girls that used to work in here, out of here, and still do. So let's PLEASE quit the nuts busting in here and don't ruin it for those whom still believe that when we're here we're not talking to robots but human beings with FEELINGS. Thou still respect all your tips!

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