So there was a post made earlier today about how everyone on this site is addicted to porn and it's the cause of the deterioration of the mental health of this country. They then proceeded to list a bunch of links to addiction websites at the end of their post. While in the course of typing this reply (I do all my typing in Word first, because too many of my posts get deleted because the computer is... well.. a computer!), the admin removed the post (with good reason). Since I have already typed it out I decided to post it anyway because it sorta pricked a nerve with me and I feel the right to defend what I do. Since the post is gone I quoted some of the argument in all CAPS. I know I shouldn't even open the floodgates on this one, 'cause this poster is just doing a �ruffle the feathers� kind of thread but...



I'm glad that this poster clearly knows what they're talking about. While, yes, in the pornography industry there have been many documented cases of women being abused, battered and some instances there have been deaths, this site is totally different. For starters you're talking about two different types of adult entertainment. In those cases there have been producers and directors who push the woman to do things they do not want to do for periods of time they do not want to do it with a blatant disregard for the woman's well being. And that sort of shit happens in every industry it's just more predominate in porn. Probably for a lot of reasons, but none more than the fact that people already give it a bad name so any publicity is bad publicity. I've seen many women get manipulated in different industries, but the funny thing is it's usually the women doing the manipulating at a lot of these places so they can get what they want (But alas poor, poor women all the time)! On this site it is the models discretion to do whatever they want, that's why there are so many different types of models on here. Ever heard a model tell someone they won't do something? I have, but they are not being forced to do things they wouldn't want to do normally. And if they don't like what they are doing from a moral perspective, they can get off line; no one's forcing them to stay. If you're not getting it quite yet, let me sum this first paragraph up for you: No One Is Getting Abused Or Mistreated On This Site.

This is an interaction with models similar to whom you might find in your own hometown and probably doing the same things on here that they would in their personal lives. If that's a crime then why don't you add a link about the problems of social interaction to your self help section.

�IF YOU'RE NOT ADDICTED YET, YOU WILL BE�
Any sort of addiction can lead to criminal activity. Since you seem so concerned about our well being and you're already in the real world, do you mind listing some links for the following as well:

-drug addiction
-alcoholism
-video game addiction
-obesity
-anorexia
-bulimia
-prescription narcotic dependency
-gambling

No one I know has died from excessive masturbation, but there have been documented deaths for every single addiction I listed above. Yes, porn does alter chemicals in your brain because of the sexual energy they provide, but here's the fun thing.. they are the same chemicals that are altered while engaging in sex! So while we're at it why don't we just go ahead and ban all sexual activity everywhere because there is the potential for someone to commit a crime. Is it possible to ban human nature?

Everything you do on a regular basis can be considered an addiction on some level, but the majority of them are controlled addictions. If this is how someone wants to spend their money than so be it, who am I to tell someone how to live their life? Your case is being made for the few people that have a serious problem. When you start using the exceptions as the rule, then you can make an argument for just about every activity a person does as being harmful in some way. The only �problem� that could come from this site would be from people that are on here spending money that they should be saving for rent or food and such, then yes those people have a problem, but as I stated above they are the exceptions, and not the rule.

�PORN ADDICTS DON'T WASTE YOUR TIME DEFENDING YOURSELVES AS YOU'RE ARGUMENT WILL BE POINTLESS SINCE YOU'RE ALREADY ADDICTED�
This is my favorite part of your entire post and my favorite thing about activists in general: closed mindedness. You expect others on here to listen to your point of view and take your advice but you yourself are not open to listening to the side that you are bashing. You think you have the final say because you have a stance on something. You wanna know what though? You talk about the �COUNTRY WIDE MENTAL HEALTH BREAKDOWN� that's going on, you can go ahead and put people like yourselves right on that list. Of all the problems in this country it's usually the activists that cause the most problems and the most criminal activity � but we can justify that because you're doing it for a �good cause�. So let me get this straight.. since we are playing the exceptions to the rule game: Burning abortion clinics , destroying churches and beating gay people is OK, while spending money to rub one out is NOT OK? Through you're post I'm glad I understand now that this site is leading to the deterioration of my health. Good thing you caught me in time too... I was beginning to think that when I go visit Kimee's room later it'll actually make my day a little more enjoyable. Quote

I just wonder what was the guy doing on such a bad site!

gdiddy Quote

Reported him - 3rd type of same post

Hopefully they will ban his posting abilities for a few days - maybe permanent

People who have that problem - often struggle . He probably has suffered from addictions
Pain is real . I hope he gets help and sticks to it .

This place , Flirt4Free, is for entertainment and fun

Not just about Porn for many of us .
Women are beautiful and sexy , but I have met a few friends here - both models and members

May all have fun and be addicted to life

Good topic gdiddy Quote

Thank you gdiddy!!!!! I like to think that this site is a great way for members to escape their everyday "realities" and have some fun. I as a performer have never once felt abused at all. I read that other guys posts and thought how sad for someone to have to come in here and be so negative, especially when he probably has no idea what really goes on in the chat rooms. I have met so many great people here. It's not always about sex either, although it has a lot to do with it, but a lot of member just like to talk to me in private and I love getting to know everyone. To each their own! Quote

Pssss LikaU...... you are addicted to ESP models...that is a very very perverted and bad addiction
And Gdiddy great job, i love your topic and all your activity on forum, good to see we corrupted some quality people here Quote

loved your post i never actully read a post that long b4 on the forums *lol* but i read all of yours and thout it was great everything you said was right on *_* Quote

Excellent post gdiddy!

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And Gdiddy great job, i love your topic and all your activity on forum, good to see we corrupted some quality people here

*sings* and another one gone, another one gone, another one bites the dust!

loved your post i never actully read a post that long b4 on the forums *lol* but i read all of yours and thout it was great everything you said was right on *_*

thanks so much! it makes me feel good to know that people value my opinion!

Thank you gdiddy!!!!!

Good topic gdiddy

gdiddy

thanks everyone! honestly my favorite aspect of this site (aside from kimee) are these forums. for the bad name that poster was trying to give, it's one of the few places that i enjoy coming to, reading and participating in! it's amazing how much fun it can be to interact with people i've never met and models who's rooms i've yet to be in! everyone together makes this site MY ADDICTION! lol

Not just about Porn for many of us .
Women are beautiful and sexy , but I have met a few friends here - both models and members

LickaU i couldn't have said it better myself. while i still would consider myself "new" (as i have been here less than three months), i'd like to think that some models get a 'lil excited when they see my name pop up! there's some members that i run into in the rooms often and it's fun and interesting to catch up with them as well as the models. i'd like to think i'm making a few friends on here as well!

another point i neglected to make was how many people actually use porn as a way to enhance their sex lives. i know i've learned a few things from porn and from this site (see my squirting post - lol). wonder if anyone has taken the viewpoint that adult entertainment might actually be helping relationships as it allows people, who otherwise might be engaging in "vanilla" sex, to actually expand their horizons and possibly keep the relationship from getting stale and boring?

Thanks for all the responses everyone. I encourage you all to keep commenting on how this site actually makes your life better as opposed to "deteriorating you mental health"! Quote

gdiddy well said Quote

i agree!!!

this reminds me of a guy that came into my room a few days ago, he said "you should really stop doing this it's not good for you now or your future"

um.... you don't know me at all dingus (my thoughts since i try to stay nice in my room ) i have 2 degrees from undergrad, i have another "real" job and i'm doing this to help finance my future and my own business ventures. there are many successful/educated women and men on this site. and you can be sure they have more on their resume than "independent contractor"

don't hate, he's just jealous.
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i agree!!!
this reminds me of a guy that came into my room a few days ago, he said "you should really stop doing this it's not good for you now or your future"
um.... you don't know me at all dingus (my thoughts since i try to stay nice in my room ) i have 2 degrees from undergrad, i have another "real" job and i'm doing this to help finance my future and my own business ventures. there are many successful/educated women and men on this site. and you can be sure they have more on their resume than "independent contractor"
don't hate, he's just jealous.


Well said -

He is a hater of himself and ashamed of his actions
He has a twisted way of "redemption" by "preaching" to the masses here

May dingus rot outside of Flirt4Free and find his own salvation visiting Prohibition sites in the 1920s Quote

this reminds me of a guy that came into my room a few days ago, he said "you should really stop doing this it's not good for you now or your future"


i wonder if that was the same guy who posted that in the forums.. Quote

AN old Grey member named Roger - recently BookHerNow spoke quite the same

He would ask to see model naked - if not ........
He went to preahing

He would flood the rooms with chat and accuse model of being a prostitute

Hopefully this person either got help or Flirt4Free/Video Secrets has revoked Posting rights here

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Hopefully this person either got help or Flirt4Free/Video Secrets has revoked Posting rights here


can't they just re-sign up under a different alias?
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can't they just re-sign up under a different alias?


They would need a different email address too, but of course that's not hard to do Quote

one more thing that i like about this site is this: of all the places in the world that don't seem to be willing to accept the differences that make us unique, this site isn't one of them! when i'm in these forums, it's one of the few places i feel that whatever opinion i have will, if not respected, at least be listened to. while i've seen some pretty interesting topics discussed in here, i don't see much in the way of "bashing" going on. it's everyone's differences in opinions and fantasies that make this site "addicting" and worth coming to, and that is the number one reason why i feel this site is good! of all the negativity going on in this world, there is much positive to be said about this place.

i feel a big is in order for everyone who comes on here and keeps the forums alive. i enjoy a good chat and pvt as much as the next guy, but i enjoy these forums just as much sometimes! Quote

AN old Grey member named Roger - recently BookHerNow spoke quite the same
He would ask to see model naked - if not ........
He went to preahing

so what would he do if she did get naked?.. Quote

that would be offer her 25 grand to pose in playboy... Quote

GDIDDY



LOL Diddy I love you... <3 <3 <3

This post is so true... this is the LAST place to preach abuse and degradation

As you said, no one is forced to do anything here. Further more, if she was -- it would not last long. If I ever am not smiling for a SECOND -- someone is sure to point it out -- I cant imagine if I was frowning all the time from being forced.:P

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so what would he do if she did get naked?..


He would post her images
He tried always to use Yahoo and get free cam shows
No one got $25,000 . He never spent even $30 for a 5 minute private

He would get as much personal information and use it as blackmail
Threaten to tell her parents or school - He was 1 of the lowest creatures to visit here

Happy not to have seen Roger in almost 1 year Quote