This is one VIP member's opinion; but I think it is a very dangerous practice for one model to visit another model's chat room. This opinion holds regardless of the gender and/or sexual preference of either model involved; My reasoning is two-fold:

1) The model that you are visiting is working and you are not (at least hopefully not); the time, even the few moments, when the model working has to read and reply to your message (even if whispered) could very well be the difference between them being able to get a private chat with a member in their room or that member moving on to another model since the visitor feels like their attempts to find a connection with this model have failed. I know I have left a model's room in the past when she was too busy to chat with me; I would hate to think that she was chatting with other models while she was working and lost a private because of it.

2) Appearances - Regardless of if you as the visiting model have zero or 100% intend to steal members out of this working model's room, the perception is there, at least for me, since I have seen it done. When any visitor starts to chat up one model in another model's room, that visit is already believed to be a model, friend of a model or just someone who is trying to steal members from one room to another; something else I have seen done too. Perception is more important than reality in life; and that perception something could be happen is more important than if there is really any foul play really going on.

I completely understand the feeling of community spirit among the models; however, I am going to gusss like any work environment, not all the models get along. I would also think that you have other ways of communicating with other models, especially if you hold a membership on the site, such a e-mail. It is difficult enough to create connections with models with the chat room traffic on the site; don't make it more difficult for your fellow model by dividing his/her attention even more.

At the very least, don't make it know to the members in a chat room that you are a working model on the site when you visit another model's room or talk and/or share information that makes it clear that you are a model. And, if you are a model and you see a screen name of a second model in the same chat room, don't be dumb enough to call out the model and make it know that there are one if not two visiting models in the same working model's chat room.

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An interesting post and well written .

I dont fully agree with your opinion , however i do agree that it may not be good for one model to distract another from her visitors , however I assume alot of the models have become friends just as I have made friends here on the site and if they enjoy visiting each others rooms and having some fun together then what harm ??? that sense of community I think may actually draw others to join in.

But as you said this is just an opinion of another VIP

I do however have one gripe or pet hate , and it is this ... I really dont like it when a model comes into another models room and stays there for a prolonged period of time , but just whispers for the entire time , so all we see is a one sided conversation..... just to be clear I am by no means saying that lots of models do this.... but i have seen it happen , and we have all seen many posts and threads about over use of whispering .... anyway I will stop ranting now.

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Hiya!
Now this is just my opinion and I know it varies from model to model, but, I LOVE when my fellow models come to visit! Usually they come in and lift the mood. You'd be surprised how many times a model has HELPED me get a private because they are just in chatting it up and keep my room moving. There is protocol that we have to follow when we visit, to make it clear that we are just there to visit and not to steal customer. Which isn't something I have had happen to me. I will personally "out" a model who comes in my room and talk to them like anyone else, and more times than not together we get 90% of the members in my room talking and having fun. Generally I'm not a fan of whispering, not because it's rude, but it's hard to hold 12 private conversations at once. I don't think having a model in my room hurts my odds of getting a private any more than having regulars in my room does.
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totally agree robyn! By the way, I love visiting your room! You are such a warm special beautiful lady! Quote

There is a major flaw, as in the pink elephant with big floppy ears that is standing right there in front of us, with the argument proposed in point (1). The notion that a model visiting another model is a waste of time leads to the ignored point that the �room regulars' who are just chatting away hour after hour are also wasting time. Who is more likely to spend a greater percentage of shift in the chat room during the day and week, a fellow model or a �room regular�? (Who is to say the visiting model is not there to see if there is a time they could enter a private the next day when they are not working?) How many of us members are guilty of entering a room and chatting away with little regard that someone else might be trying to meet the model before going in private? A new member (let say they are a VIP) that thought about entering a private after meeting a model, is very likely to leave a room because of the +5 room regulars chatting away, one visiting model can not type as fast as +5 room regulars. The new member writes 'hi' and watches as lines of text from �room regulars� chatting or whispering to the model get replies, and the model looses the new members thread. Another potential customer lost, only it is due to me as a room regular and not due to a co-worker stopping in to say �hi.� If we want to single out models as time wasters for saying �hi� to a co-worker, then the accusing finger must spend more time pointed at us, the members and �room regulars.� My opinion is co-workers stopping by to visit in not a waste of time, especially when compared to the amount of time wasting we, the members, are responsible for.
I do not claim to know any secrets, but the models do have a models only forum. We do not need to know what is written over in that forum, but maybe things like �please stop by tonight around 10 p.m.� are written by models. There are models that are extremely nice and helpful to each other � when they started out they where all thrown in this shark tank of members without knowing how to swim and given the advice 'don't break the rules, good luck.' Sure there might be some drama and jealousy between models that could result in visits to a particular room on a particular day. But the models cannot compete with the drama and jealousy we, the member, are responsible for causing.

Stop reading my hot air opinion and go have some fun!
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I would like to say thank you for all of your opinions... Here is mine... I visit other models all of the time and they as well visit me... If you really think about it on the woman's side just about every man has a fantasy of two women together... OK so here s my opinion... I LOVE WOMEN IN MY ROOM!!! I will never turn a model away unless that model is being rude or creating drama... I am the only one in my room allowed to do that lol.... I think ElMonitoLoco said it best that we as models do form friendships and we do set times to spend with others as we are getting ready or taking a break etc... I do it all of the time. I have never had a complaint and we have even taken 2 rooms from different models to others rooms.. If everyone is happy and having a good time the morale is higher and therefore the model is in a better friskier mood.... I know that when I have a lot of chat going on I love it and it gets me happier and my regulars happy because everyone is contributing to my happiness and theirs alike... I hope I didnt sstep on anyones toes but in fact I really dont care.. I know this comes off as a little rude but at the same time if it ain't broke don't fix it!!!!


There are lots of ladies and gents that I love and I take pvt so why wouldnt I want to speak with them before I decide to do that?


Just as you like to speak with someone and get to know them first before you spend time with them it is the same with many of us models here...




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Hi,

Well I guess I should say something. This thread was started because I visited a model's room. It happens to be a model that I get on well with on the forum and hadn't had a chance to say hello to live.

I understand the views of the member that posted this, who (although he has a different name) I guess is the member that voiced his opinions in the room at the time.

The idea that models visiting one another is a bad thing would only be true if it harmed that model getting a private. But most models are VERY WELL VERSED at being able to see when privates may happen, and would never distract from that. Most models that visit others are either there to help the atmosphere in the room, or possibly to take the model private themselves.

The point that was made about room regulars is so perfect. If a model could be distracted by a visiting model (who is registered and therefore could take them pvt) then how does that differ from a regular going in who knows that a pvt wont happen that night?

Don't get me wrong, I know all us models LOVE HAVING OUR REGULARS, and many of s love having our colleagues visiting too. A happy chatty room is a successful room.

We do speak on our forum, and do often invite other models to join us. I do not visit models unsolicited, and even if someone did the person in charge of that room is the performing model, and they have the right and ability to get rid of any visitor.

I am sorry to the two visitors that were so offended when I entered the room, but please remember not only was the lady in pvt at the time (so I wasn't distracting her), and I was gay male model (so unable to steal custom), but I also never mentioned my model name. I also have the full support of the model who's room it was.

Please remember guys, being a model can be somewhat lonely at times, even when in a room full of people. Having a colleague simply there with you is support that you cannot imagine.

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I love to visit other models and i love when the visit me. I understand that some members are here soley to "get off". But most enjoy a lively conversation and even a deep discussion that alot of people join in on. When a model visits another model, it often helps to engage others that would normally sit back and not say a peep. Also it actually turns on alot of people to see 2 models flirting with on another. When u meet someoone , even if it is sexual in nature more than likely it wont last long if that person doesnt engage with you on a mental level. I personally have the BEST sex with someone who i am mentally attracted to. Just my Quote

I have to agree with the models who have posted on this thread. I frequent several rooms, one model I love to visit frequently has other models in her room, and they never try to steal customers. If anything they add to the entertainment value of the room. For every 5 minutes of private time I spend on this site, I probably spend 3 or 4 hours of free chat time. I love spending time in free chat, I enjoy the conversation with models and with other members. I have found when a member comes in asking questions about private play time, all models recognize they may have a potential customer and they answer all questions that person might have. I also try to stop my chat when a potential customer enters a models room. The majority of people who want to go private disregard the other chat in the room and after a few questions they take the model private.

What is distracting to a model is when a member enters their room and leads them to believe they might go private by saying things like "I will take you private if.." or if the only chat comments they make are sexual comments and they continue this kind of talk for an extended period of time.

Models visiting other chat rooms is nothing compared to the "regulars" of some chat rooms. I am a regular in several models chat rooms and I try my best to avoid anything that would take away from a model getting private time. Quote

i dont really know if i would be against someone else coming into my room and talking to me i mean its just like anything else.. especially when it comes to guys and having girls around the more the better! wouldnt you say? and ive never really had any one come in my room and chat me up (hint hint :P) any way other then that i wouldnt mind i get my pvt time any way.... if their thier or not... Quote

O domt see amy problems with models visitimg another model unless its the intention of the visitor to try and glean new ppl into their room. Many tines its actually a bonus that models frequent other rooms -- as they can give advice to new performers and act as room monitors when the model whose room is being visited is in pvt or talking to some1 else. This site is a community and the models are all an extended family of sorts. And we all know family looks after itself Quote

To say that the models are a community is great if it is true and only models would know that since I don't work as a model. I have seen models come into another models room talking up themselves so perhaps my opinion was formed on that impression incorrectly and unfairly.

However, bear in mind that in the ends, in my humble opinion, that models are all in a healthy competiton with each other for privates and anything that someone else does, if other models or from visitors, that hurts a model is bad for them. Logic would tell me that one person competing with another has to be a really great person to give someone help who could turn around and use that advice to take money out of their pockets. Perhaps growing up in NYC, I tending to slant toward the darker side of what a person can do first until shown otherwise.

With that said,it would appear I am wrong in my opinions. I thank everyone who posted a reply to my thread; it was nice to see read them and get another point of view.

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Models who visit models are friends
They are REALLY a support system for each other

Sometimes there are members who recruit for a different model They are low lifes who pretend to be the model and cause problems for the model they pretend and the rooms they visit

Models are usually very smart . They know each other and also members and thier writing styles

Models and most members know 1 word well - RESPECT

Suggs said it best - this is a Community

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So true guys We also know each others names. I can honestly say, I have alot that visit and NONE have come in to be mean etc. I visit alot and play (ya'll are usually there with me) and never bother my friends. If I am wrong, please let me know. But, there is always exceptions to the rule. But I love my model friends and forum friends and look forward to a day on the beach, with a Tiki Bar and Margaritas and ALL my friends from here. HeHe
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However, bear in mind that in the ends, in my humble opinion, that models are all in a healthy competiton with each other for privates and anything that someone else does, if other models or from visitors, that hurts a model is bad for them. Logic would tell me that one person competing with another has to be a really great person to give someone help who could turn around and use that advice to take money out of their pockets.


That kind of mentality does exist on a number of other cam sites, and yes there are a very small (thankfully) number of models here, and members too as you phave proven, that believe we are all in competition.

This site is different from the rest, we have a great model forum, and have the chance to interact with you guys here too. The site promotes a community spirit.

The idea that we are all competing and fighting for the same dollar is one theory, but try looking at it this way. If models help one another, giving tips and advice in their forum, creating relationships, supporting one another while working etc. It makes us as models better, newer models improve, and it makes the site a nicer place to visit. Drawing more new members in, and therefore increasing the amount spent on the site.

We are not all competing for a set number of dollars, we all (models and even members) have the ability to increase the member base by continually makeing the site a great place to be.

I think you would agree, this site is head and shoulders above other similar sites. I believe the fact that we are one big community and helping one another is the major reason why.

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I have to say a happy site is a horny site and I will also say this to you... I do not care if I go into a models room and a "regular" of mine is in there and takes her or him pvt yes I also said him!!! The reason is because I know most of my friend's situations in life and you know what... What kind of person would I be if I wanted to hinder someone else... My friends are my family and I protect my family... I take models pvt all of the time and there are many reasons for that... One is to financially help them in any way that I am able to do so... If they are happy I am happy... Me being happy makes my room happy my room being happy makes my regulars happy my regulars being happy makes their work better when their work is better their home life is better and everything in general is better... We are all here to do a job but for me it is more in depth than that it is the connection and the friendships as well and if you ever came into my room you would understand I NEVER push a pvt unless it is a person that has had this discussed before.... I am an easy going person and that is that..... ESSEXBOY I LOVE YOU TO PIECES and I apologize if this was my room when you came to visit me for the first time... I loved your visit... I really did..... I will continue to visit you and please do continue to visit me!!!!! Gay men are hot tooo!!!!! We really need to go shopping, LOL...


I LOVE EVERYONE...



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Maria Quote

I think everything has been said so Ill keep it short. I pop into rooms and say hello to my fave sexy girls every so often! I always whisper my name so that Im not "advertising myself" in someone elses room, a quick hello and I always leave the room telling everyone how hot that model is in private and I can't wait for another show hehe ,, since they dont know Im a model I hope it motivates people to go prv

As far as I know my quick hello's always put a smile on the models face and perks them up

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I think everything has been said so Ill keep it short. I pop into rooms and say hello to my fave sexy girls every so often! I always whisper my name so that Im not "advertising myself" in someone elses room, a quick hello and I always leave the room telling everyone how hot that model is in private and I can't wait for another show hehe ,, since they dont know Im a model I hope it motivates people to go prv

As far as I know my quick hello's always put a smile on the models face and perks them up

This is just what I have done, . =) Quote