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GalloDelCielo
Created by: gallodelcielo

9/9/09 @ 6:24am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Posts: 1,477

I regognized that its not possible anymore to add pictures, slideshows or videos to the posts anymore...

Thats really a pity because it was making the forums a little bit more friendly...
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_-Sweet
Created by: _-sweet

9/9/09 @ 6:56am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Location: Netherland

Have to see for myself

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_-Sweet
Created by: _-sweet

9/9/09 @ 6:58am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Location: Netherland

I was already afraid of it, they are probably are afraid for copyright claims.
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dubyabee
Created by: dubyabee

9/9/09 @ 7:39am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Location: Path to Pearly Gates on Fantasy Island
Posts: 2,504

I tried it too. Inserting pics, even if they are your OWN photographs, are blocked.

How sad and how very boring!
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mrsilly
Created by: mrsilly

9/9/09 @ 6:16pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

the gods of f4f giveth and taketh away.i think they like to tease like a model :winkwink
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diamondback73
Created by: diamondback73

9/9/09 @ 6:19pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Location: Illinois- The Windy City
Posts: 409

It really is a shame that those features have been taken away. There was alot of us that visit this site on a daily basis that shared some cool posts.

Guess it isn't all about the customer anymore... :(


**Diamond**
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dicimus
Created by: dicimus

9/9/09 @ 6:22pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Posts: 98

There was nothing to prevent, say, the posting of a picture of a minor, which, incidentally, happened just before the ability was taken away.

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Carla Lopez
Created by: Carla Lopez

9/9/09 @ 9:01pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

I think that copyright issues were definitely the reason that the feature was taken away, We models are not even allowed to listen to music due to copyright issues or show certain labels. If we do and get caught doing so, we will get hefty fines. Although there were no set rules when the option was given, common sense should of cam into effect when the postings did go up. I mean posting cartoons (copyrighted) to an adult website forum is probably not a good idea. I didn't see the post with the minor but of course that was a pretty dumb idea. I think that the forums are here for interaction between models and members and that is it. If members want to look at pictures or see color, take a look at all the beautiful models and their pics on the site, for they are far more relevant to the purpose of the forum then pics of Garfield. Just my :twocents
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YourTeacher
Created by: yourteacher

9/9/09 @ 9:15pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

Like so many other things in the forum, things have been taken too far by people with no common sense. The title of the Forum is "Straight Fantasies" and NOT, What songs do you have your iPod!

I am very sorry that you feel like there is something so precious being taken away from you; it is clear however that this toy should have never been given to you by Santa in the first place.

Too much of any good thing is bad, this is a case in point; a few bad apples spoil it for everyone!
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Purgatory
Created by: purgatory

9/9/09 @ 10:06pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

Like so many other things in the forum, things have been taken too far by people with no common sense. The title of the Forum is "Straight Fantasies" and NOT, What songs do you have your iPod!

Problem here is there is not enough sections to allow people to discuss other topics, that's why a general area in non-vips section of the forum is needed and a help section for people needed help with the site.


a few bad apples spoil it for everyone!



Agree here 100%, the santa stuff not too sure how to reply to that ...



Also the person posting pictures of minors should be reported to the police if this person put up indecent pictures of minors up on this forums, they must have an account with their sign up details to have posted anything here and all sign up details contain a real name and address for where the payment goes threw to and an I.P. I never saw any image myself on here of such an event I have to say but may have happend in the times I was not on here.



The copyright stuff is a problem too but we need to get real here too, you telling me myspace/facebook is getting sued over youtube videos and pictures of cartoon characters that their users use everyday.. The law really needs to wake up to the digital age here and all these copyright claims made by the music/entertainment industry need to be taken into reality and stop these stupid industries taking over every activity that takes place in peoples lives. Yes I agree with protecting intellectual property and against duplication of software in any form but they need to get real here and look at most of it as free advertising by fans in the case of such things as youtube videos in clip forms and cartoon character pictures... etc that is harmless.. I don't mean here full movies being uploaded to such sites that are out in cinema here or copying software for your computer or music you use on your music players.



I understand 100% why vsmedia/flirt4free pulled that if the images of minors was caught on here but this person that did it I will repeat needs reporting to the police.. This is a terrible act of a sick person that needs to be taken out of society... again I will say I did not see it on the forums ... Thank you VS for removing the content in a swift manner & a thank you to the person that may have reported it to the site ...


Regards

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Carla Lopez
Created by: Carla Lopez

9/10/09 @ 12:05am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

With all due respect, this site is not designed for member to member contact, it is designed for member to model contact. This forum is perfect for that and another section would only lead to more attention being taking from the models. Every time a thread is created that has nothing to do with this site, a thread promoting the site or a model, is bumped further down the list. I love the forums and the interaction between the models and members, but I do feel like it is starting to get polluted with far to many threads that are not pertinent to the site. Its great you all love the forums so much, but it kind of bothers me that so many of you complain about how the forums should be used. When making these complaints, please bare in mind that there are not many adult sites that do not even allow this much interaction between members. Again, not trying to rain on anyone's parade, but everyone should just be happy that there is a forum at all.
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dicimus
Created by: dicimus

9/10/09 @ 12:13am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Posts: 98

I'm not sure the picture of the minor that I saw rises to the level of indecent, but laws in the US about this are very grey. I respect the right of the site to protect itself, and I personally don't feel that photos of anyone underage belong on an adult site. :twocents
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dicimus
Created by: dicimus

9/10/09 @ 12:22am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Posts: 98

btw, I just want to say, I'm not too sure I agree with anything Carla just said about the futility of the forums.

I'm not really even a regular forum poster, but I often find them entertaining. I also tend to happily waste time here while waiting for models to get on. If it weren't for these inane forums, I'd likely just read the paper. And no one should have to read the paper.
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Carla Lopez
Created by: Carla Lopez

9/10/09 @ 12:31am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

btw, I just want to say, I'm not too sure I agree with anything Carla just said about the futility of the forums.
I'm not really even a regular forum poster, but I often find them entertaining. I also tend to happily waste time here while waiting for models to get on. If it weren't for these inane forums, I'd likely just read the paper. And no one should have to read the paper.


I didn't say the forum was futile, however, the futility of a lot of the threads and post is questionable. Again, I do not even argue with the threads in question because I understand that this may be a refuge for many, myself included, but I just disagree with the complaints about the powers to be. I hate to say it, but there are far to many things that go on behind the scenes that neither the members nor the models are aware of to make this such an awesome site to work for and to play on. To complain about something as silly as not being able to post images in the forum is quite, well, futile.
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dicimus
Created by: dicimus

9/10/09 @ 12:45am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Posts: 98

I see your point Carla, but I liked the videos. I don't really see how they distract. It's not like I spend any less time on youtube than I did before.

The nice part about you tube also is that it's policed by you tube, so if in fact copyright or any of the other stuff was the reason they removed the privilege.

The real reason, I suspect, is bandwidth.
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Purgatory
Created by: purgatory

9/10/09 @ 1:15am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

With all due respect, this site is not designed for member to member contact, it is designed for member to model contact.

Humm the forums were originally created for the vips to chat between themselves and the site admins when they were bringing in new features or the vip perks.

This forum is perfect for that and another section would only lead to more attention being taking from the models.

Well the other sections would tidy up the forums and allow the models to clearly see where they are needed and where they need to reply.

Every time a thread is created that has nothing to do with this site, a thread promoting the site or a model, is bumped further down the list. I love the forums and the interaction between the models and members, but I do feel like it is starting to get polluted with far to many threads that are not pertinent to the site.

Agree here thats why I said more sections will stop such posts being knocked down.


Its great you all love the forums so much, but it kind of bothers me that so many of you complain about how the forums should be used. When making these complaints, please bare in mind that there are not many adult sites that do not even allow this much interaction between members. Again, not trying to rain on anyone's parade, but everyone should just be happy that there is a forum at all.

I think the site should stick some rules up how they should be used and I think they didn't do that because we all should be adults here and you would think most adults would do the right thing, but as we see here not always the case.

I think most of the top sites or sites that have been in this industry are doing some form of social networking or a forum now.. Some even have very complex sites with such features even more complex then their main video broadcasting part. One site at moment which I wont name here has profiles for members and models and has a full like myspace setup on it and the chat allows users to post pictures and other things in the chat as the chat is running. A site some of you models here will know because seeing a lot of the flirt4free models working on that site too at the same time as being online on flirt4free. I think I know where you are going with this and I understand this really, the site traffic is very slow at the moment to some of the rooms, I am seeing this too and i'm seeing the performers get more and more frustrated everyday recently.

Now as I said models working many sites at same time is a problem that is killing their own rooms, other models chances of getting new customers and damaging the sites they work on, reason being they can't chat to the customers on many sites at once and do the same replies to everyone or the famous "go private or leave" line that is becoming more and more popular recently. Also the other sites some of the models working on allow them to do full shows in open room for tips .. so why would a customer pay on one site to see the same model perform a show for free in open room and on another only in private ? You see my point how this damages the sites,studios and models that are trying to keep things working in the right manner ? Some of these other sites are promising their performers fake hopes that are allowing them to do shows in open room for a small tip.. All these models will be yesterdays news after the customers see them for free doing shows and working on these sites and sorry to say they also work here some of these models and are telling flirt4free customers they work on x , y, z sites to get them to go over there too, some of these models i'm sure apply here because they are paid by these sites to come pretend to work here and steal this sites customers and other sites.. Some of you will say yes sure.. it's a fantasy this.. humm I have screenshots to prove otherwise and I am even seeing vip memebers come here and do same and try tell models to go work on x,y, z site. I have a few friends that are models here and are best friends with my girlfriend that worked here in the past and I am told everything that goes on here and when sites/members come to them to try steal their customers and try make them move to their sites and pretending to pay them more at 1st and latter realise they were used just to get the other sites paying customer over to their site.. They don't care about models they care about $ and i'm seeing this one site I speak of doing some really nasty tricks recently and coming to other sites flirt4free being one of them and stealing their customers and models.

Well the models that are falling for this trick now think when being offered this offer .. Did you realise this site protects you here and trys to not allow people from your regions on here and also if any of your videos or material that was produced on this site is removed from other sites. The site that is trying to take models over to them is not doing anything like that and breaking every law in most countries regarding this type of site. So you could also face criminal charges on the other sites for indecent acts in an open room of these sites for the plain fact the users there may not be adults and you are probably exposing minors to indecent acts and some of the models I saw on that site were clearly doing acts that were illegal even in a private room situation for adults.


I think most you models need to use the model forums and start talking between yourselves and how to fix these problems too, because what I stated is killing your work on such sites. This site I resepect as many of you know for the plain reason they look out for their performers when they can and their members, also they operate a business ethically without all the tricks some of these other sites are pulling on mostly poor girls from poor countries and taking full advantage of them while they can. Carla i'm just as upset seeing what is happening I remember the rooms here were so full of chat that they were so hard to read because of the speed the chat moved. I would like to see that come back here but you performers have to start helping in that too and discourage performers that come here thinking its a free ride. It's a job like any other job working here and rules must be followed to keep it operating in a profitable way for the performer and the site. As you know I'm "pro-model" as some would like to call it.. yes I am in some ways and will try help any performer if I can that I see is doing the right thing.. been on this type of site a long time really and the only things i'm seeing kill these sites is rude performers that won't chat or make it clear with "private or leave" Flirt4free is a great site but I think most of the regulars will tell you that the chat is dead in most rooms now and all down to the perforers not being friendly or too busy working many sites at once and can't chat so reply random stuff or only to the ones that say want to go private. The ones typing want to go private as you know will type next okay do this and that in open room and I will.. thats how you all set yourselves up for that line too, in past guys would say ready to a model or just click private.

Also i'm going to add here not all models are doing this and i'm really happy to see some of the models here are really trying hard and every time I catch up with a model that has been working here a long time 1st thing they say to me is "damn I miss the old days here and the fun we all had and how is x, y,z person that use to be in their chat before". Well the way to bring that fun back is to chat to all even the greys and if they are rude mute them, greys are future customers .. we all started grey here and decided to join because 1 or more models made us like being here. Make it fun for the customers/greys and the fun will come back and get to know the customers too and find what makes them tick and keep them coming back for more.

Rant over... my fingers hurt typing all day as it is.. there is more going on then a simple forum making things slow for models and the forums as you see have kept most of us here too, one of the things I liked in the vip package that would get me to join the vip was the forums, not the videos or the pictures.. So you see flirt4free appeals to many types of people .. other sites one track minded people, you decide really which is best. I know where i'm staying..

Regards

Nabil
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Carla Lopez
Created by: Carla Lopez

9/10/09 @ 1:37am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

I agree with you you totally about the models working on multiple sites; but from a models stand point, I am a model who works only on one site, this one, and I have had periods of times where I would have a full room and no one talking. I feel that although I do not use audio, I am very involved in my chat room. Just as there are girls with several sites up, there are also members who come and have multiple windows open just watching and not speaking to the models because they have way too many different conversations gong on. I will not condone what these models are doing, but I nor anyone else should condemn them This is a job to many of us, no matter how much we enjoy it and if this site is not as lucrative for a model, she still has to pay bills. I do not want to single anyone out, but I have had several "pro-model" members come into my room and they are the one's who are guilty of sitting for hours without saying anything. I could see if they were not happy with what they saw, or was not interested in the conversation, then by all means, do not speak, but if someone sits there for hours and not speak and continues to frequent my room, something is prompting them to return. So, again, i understand your rant, and the models guilty of the whole go private or leave thing, as you said will not last long, but I do believe that it is a small percentage of the models here and they will not last too long here. Anyway, I should be sleeping, i have a damn exam tomorrow.
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Loona
Created by: Loona

9/10/09 @ 1:37am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

I just woke up and found that convo...

Nabil's post woke me up definitely making me use my dictioniary more then often :orglaugh

What I'd like to say...

A have to agree with Carla (Dear, you are not lonely in this opinion :) - we have to clear Straight Fantasies Forum from things which are not really suitable. I really, really, REALLY understand you guys enjoying playing games etc. but... "I hate games" :orglaugh :orglaugh :orglaugh

Some are fun - they allow members and models to meet each other, but others are... confusing for us...

For example I was posting yesterday a thing about cancelling schedule. After some time it was buried by word games :( Well, I feel bad then - only good thing is - well, guys are linguisticks as I am :orglaugh :orglaugh

Also I am worried guys don't need us on forums any more :( :( :( :( :( When we were away for a while (little problem on forums - we could'nt post for over night) - any guy noticed our absence :( :( :( :( :(

But games were doing fine :orglaugh :orglaugh :orglaugh :orglaugh

Please guys, tell me I am wrong *crying emoticon*
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Carla Lopez
Created by: Carla Lopez

9/10/09 @ 1:42am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

I just woke up and found that convo...
Nabil's post woke me up definitely making me use my dictioniary more then often :orglaugh
What I'd like to say...
A have to agree with Carla (Dear, you are not lonely in this opinion :) - we have to clear Straight Fantasies Forum from things which are not really suitable. I really, really, REALLY understand you guys enjoying playing games etc. but... "I hate games" :orglaugh :orglaugh :orglaugh
Some are fun - they allow members and models to meet each other, but others are... confusing for us...
For example I was posting yesterday a thing about cancelling schedule. After some time it was buried by word games :( Well, I feel bad then - only good thing is - well, guys are linguisticks as I am :orglaugh :orglaugh
Also I am worried guys don't need us on forums any more :( :( :( :( :( When we were away for a while (little problem on forums - we could'nt post for over night) - any guy noticed our absence :( :( :( :( :(
But games were doing fine :orglaugh :orglaugh :orglaugh :orglaugh
Please guys, tell me I am wrong *crying emoticon*

..lol, they didn't notice loona, you realize there was not a "missing models" thread started.

:orglaugh :orglaugh :orglaugh :orglaugh :orglaugh :orglaugh
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Purgatory
Created by: purgatory

9/10/09 @ 1:58am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

I just woke up and found that convo...
Nabil's post woke me up definitely making me use my dictioniary more then often :orglaugh
What I'd like to say...
A have to agree with Carla (Dear, you are not lonely in this opinion :) - we have to clear Straight Fantasies Forum from things which are not really suitable. I really, really, REALLY understand you guys enjoying playing games etc. but... "I hate games" :orglaugh :orglaugh :orglaugh
Some are fun - they allow members and models to meet each other, but others are... confusing for us...
For example I was posting yesterday a thing about cancelling schedule. After some time it was buried by word games :( Well, I feel bad then - only good thing is - well, guys are linguisticks as I am :orglaugh :orglaugh
Also I am worried guys don't need us on forums any more :( :( :( :( :( When we were away for a while (little problem on forums - we could'nt post for over night) - any guy noticed our absence :( :( :( :( :(
But games were doing fine :orglaugh :orglaugh :orglaugh :orglaugh
Please guys, tell me I am wrong *crying emoticon*


Happy I woke you up :orglaugh Normally i'm putting performers to sleep :orglaugh :winkwink


BTW good morning :guitar :smoking
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