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Created by: ryangy

4/2/09 @ 1:39am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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I remember awhile ago someone made a post here warning other members of a certain model who if you went private with her she wouldn't do anything, just milk you for your money untill you got frustrated enough to leave. That poster got called out for poor form pointing out that model and such. But really with all the "Wall of shame" and all the things everyone does to protect and help out models on here sometimes I think members have to watch out for other members too. I debated if I should even continue posting because it's controversial probably but I think I left out anything to bad.

As I sit here typing this i'm watching this model that is nothing short of a scam. She'll do nothing in private and yet she'll say she does stuff then when the guys are going private she just sits there and talks untill they either a) get frustrated and leave or b) are willing to spend all of their money to talk to her 1 on 1 while dressed. From what I've seen (just through the little curtain and peeking at her VoD's) unless your willing to stay in private for 20 mins+ she isn't going to show anything. I've learned the hard way that I now watch a model a long time before I ever would consider going private again so she didn't scam me in any way but I feel bad for these other people. Shes just milking them big time.

My general instinct is to want to warn these people in her room that they shouldn't expect her to get naked, much less actually do anything in private but obviously out of respect to the rules I'm not going to do that in HER room and I don't want to get banned anyway. I'm also not going to leave her a bad review myself because obviously I've never been private with her. But I really wonder why these other guys arn't leaving bad reviews? In my opinion it would be completely justified in this situation and would maybe help save others a bad experiance. Are they just scared to leave bad reviews but they would be seen as mean? Or do bad reviews get filtered out?

And by the way it's because of experiances like this that the many other great models here get punished too. Because after this experience I'm sure guys are more hesitant to go private with anyone.

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Created by: Loona

4/2/09 @ 2:05am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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Maybe those guys wanna talk only?... :bulb

Then they don't leave bad reviews?.. hm.

And wow Im "impressed". Every time I went pvt with someone Im trying to satisfy my customer the best (I hate word "customer"...) and I respect every cent he spends with me. I am sure most of girls here do that. Thats why Im "impressed" that such girl is still here and stil have customers.
Maybe she's more charming than me :winkwink

I think guys can be little more careful but one case doesnt make a rule.

ps. grrrrau I like men who tells bad bad things :evil

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Created by: ryangy

4/2/09 @ 2:15am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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Hehe Loona, maybe a few of them only wanted talk. But several of them after they left private and returned to normal chat clearly showed dissatisfaction with her.

The sad thing is now she's completely leading this one guy on to believing that they can be together in real life and that he is OH SO SPECIAL... and he's falling for it bad... gonna be a very costly lesson for him.

It's SOO fake and disgusting to watch. I have to admit she's an absolute stunner though in looks, a 10. Which is likely why shes getting away with it.

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Created by: Alluria

4/2/09 @ 2:26am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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There's a market here for lonely men, horny men, and both lonely & horny men!
Not every woman on this site caters to only horny men or men that quickly jerk and leave the premises without saying thank you or goodbye...

Personally, almost 3/4 of my time in pvt is spent chatting to a client. I'm a self-pronounced talker, and I bring my energy and enthusiasm for conversation in both open and pvt.
I've generally found that I cater to people who want to chat and have a good laugh.
I have been mistaken in the past though, and tried to hold conversations with a couple of people who were probably looking to duct tape my lips shut and tear my panties off.

It's not always easy to know what people want, especially when they're not clear or say they don't know.
I always appreciate it best when people hoping to take me into pvt tell me beforehand so I have a chance to talk over with them their preferences and desires for the session. I would
recommend this to all members in order to save from disappointed and save precious dollars/time that would otherwise be taken up by getting your requests across.
(Having a lurker just whip me into pvt and then silently expecting me to start undressing straight away and fingering away at myself is frustrating. Communication is key!)

I bought a couple of sex toys last weeks in hope of appealing more to the hornier audience, but so far I've only used my clit vibrator for 5mins, and my lovely fuschia phallus is growing
cobwebs in my bag! I guess I'm the girl next door people would rather converse with than fuck! :orglaugh

Anyhow, you should consider e-mailing the girl in question and letting her know. Everybody needs tips and hints to get them on their way, and it's not always best to keep silent.
Embarassing them in front of an entire forum and possibly denting business for someone, isn't the best way to go about things! Let them know how you feel and what you would
suggest they do.
If they really aren't that comfortable with nudity though, they probably shouldn't be here or say so. :

Just my :twocents

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Created by: ourjeffie

4/2/09 @ 2:32am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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But I really wonder why these other guys aren't leaving bad reviews?
:twocents

Some of the guys may be leaving bad reviews, but Flirt4Free is on record as saying they don't post negative reviews

Go figure!

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Created by: ryangy

4/2/09 @ 2:39am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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Alluria I totally respect that some people would enjoy going private just to chat. This is something very different because she's leading them on as if shes willing to do something and then once shes getting their money she isn't at all willing to do it. So maybe by the time they figure that out they've already been in private maybe 2-3 minutes.

Also as far as I know models arn't alowd to give out any kind of personal information to members so to lead someone on to believe you could be with them in real life... is very untruthful and misleading. Sure it's the guys fault for being dumb to it as well, but it's just not the most honest thing for her to do. If your a model who comes here and you just want to sit and chat in private that's cool theirs probably a market for that, but don't advertise that your willing to do other things that you arn't.

And I won't ever post the models name so I don't really feel like I'm emberassing them in a forum.

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Created by: ryangy

4/2/09 @ 2:40am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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Some of the guys may be leaving bad reviews, but Flirt4Free is on record as saying they don't post negative reviews
Go figure!

Thanks ourjeffie! That is exactly what I was wondering... makes more sense now.

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Created by: yowzer

4/2/09 @ 2:46am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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I don't think that you can write a review or name and shame on a performer's privates that you haven't actually experienced in someone else's private show. However, if you do experience a bad performance then write a fair and balanced review as a feedback to reflect this.

However, I think we as customers have the same right to post on poor performers if we believe they are actively misleading and not producing what customers want in shows. I also think that leaving that performer's room and never visiting again is a far better way of expressing your view. After all, if a performer is not satisfying your requirements, then why would you go back to her?

Having said all this, if you can back it up, name and shame a performer if you so desire. This is a service based site. The customer is the person that needs to be kept happy ultimately. The best way to do this is to also keep the performers happy also. If a customer names and shames, don't be surprised if your nickname isn't welcomed with open arms in live chat. I for one, do not go into any naming and shaming performer rooms. Not because I am a bad chatter, but because I don't feel like being on trial when I am in chat.

Perhaps models do need a private forum so they can talk freely without us getting the hump. Also, we need one with absolutely no performer access so that we can do the same about them. How you do that, I don't know. Stuff will leak from any secure forum... and then the shit will really hit the fan.

I liked the forums when they first came out. I see the whole naming and shaming from both sides being the thing that kills of my interest in this site. All I get now is the feeling that the forums are slowly graduating to a clique of self-affirming performers and enabling posters. I hope I am wrong.

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Created by: lickau

4/2/09 @ 3:14am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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It is always ok to leave a FAIR review
Chose maybe 3 instead of 5 and itusually gets through

1 member used cussed words and called the model everything but Human

I reported ALL 3 threads to have them removed
The forum is about communication - good , bad and informative
It is not about tearing one's soul and idenity apart
It seems to many that is a fine line

Write your review FAIR
Include facts . There had to be something that attracted you
Maybe looks or personality - say the positive
Also say the truth she refused to be naked

I think your head is ready to write that review Bro . Good luck :drinkup

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Created by: pokey40

4/2/09 @ 3:59am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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If it's the model I think it is, I have seen her tell some members that she doesn't disrobe.
I have witness some of her privates and have never seen her do anything but talk.

Some of the very popular models here, have long privates where they do nothing but talk with the member, cause that's what the member wants. It's thier money and they choose to spend it that way.

Of course it would help members to be able to read good and bad reviews, but alot don't even read them to begin with.

As always if the member is dissatisfied they should tell customer service and they will help.

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Created by: j.o.h.n.

4/2/09 @ 9:16am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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If is ok or not I don't know, but I remember couple years ago about reading an former's model bio and almost all her reviews wasn't the kind of kissing her ass...She didn't put up with any crap in her room but was never rude to any customer unless he was a real ass so he only got what he deserved, but the reviews wasn't rude as well just mentioning her attitude and the fact of being a smartass most of times, think she was the best, ect... I actually miss her she was a sweetheart towards who was nice to her too and a great sense of humour.... :thumbsup

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Created by: mr.lickins

4/2/09 @ 9:33am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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Thanks ourjeffie! That is exactly what I was wondering... makes more sense now.

Again this is a forum for Fantasies . You guys just need to send a email to the site with the models name and vs will look at her vod and deal with her. Vs does not play games when it comes to looking bad to the people serve.

:twocents

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Created by: daltoc

4/2/09 @ 10:27am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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I have left one bad review - I rated a performer a "1". However, my comments were that the model just tlaked and was not at all what the other reviews had suggested. My review never did get posted. Had I rated a "3", then maybe?

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Created by: Camy Angel

4/2/09 @ 10:35am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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You guys forgot about Exit private? I think is the top right ( so I heard).
You need to take in private models that have experience in getting naked in 1 min

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Created by: Tiffany Dove

4/2/09 @ 11:21am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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Hi Ryan,

First of all, last night I had a relatively long private. He only wanted to chat at first. Then things became sexual and it turned into a full blown sexual experience for the both of us.

He was shy and insecure.

To make a long story short, sometimes all the guy who goes private wants is to talk.

I had one person take me private because he and I have the same accent and he was working out of the country and only wanted to talk to somebody to whom he could relate.

That being said, I have seen some one star and low ratings on a particular model who seems to be extremely popular. Her five stars take precedent over her lower ratings, so it looks as though she is a total 5.

You sometimes have to delve deeper into ratings. This person's had several ratings calling her boring and without any personality. One said he that a dry eraser had more personality than her.

So VOD does permit one star ratings.

Of course if a lot of people who take her private are not satisfied, perhaps she is just after easy money.

So I do agree that at times models may have ulterior motives. But not all of us.

Personally, I truly care about the people who take me private. And sometimes one thing leads to another.

Big hugs,

TIffany

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Created by: Kimee

4/2/09 @ 1:17pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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Sometimes it is so sexy to talk to a member for awhile and get to know him and he gets to know me. And then we all of a sudden start to get frisky lol. I love those pvts. I reminds me of meeting at a bar and then going home. Maybe thats what this girl is trying to do. I wouldnt leave a bad comment about her because there is a end pvt button. They can leave at any time. I think I might know who you are talking about if it someone who is sorta new. One thing about Flirt is if you dont make the person taking you pvt happy there not going to come back to visit you. She will end up loosing customers. Its not worth it to you to leave a bad comment and people who like her get pissed at you and she gets pissed. Just dont go in her room. Many models here work hard to make you all happy. :drinkup

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Created by: lickau

4/2/09 @ 1:31pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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You guys forgot about Exit private? I think is the top right ( so I heard).
You need to take in private models that have experience in getting naked in 1 min

Ryan is talking about someone who promised to be naked
She took ALL the time he had while promissing to get nakd for him

Exit is ok - but also rude

It is ok to me to say the truth

She never naked is all

There is a Non Nude category . I seen just 1 model there in the past

I am sure there are many positive things that attracted him to her
Looks , voice , personality , etc

He has seen this model and had others also complain that she does not get nude for them
She should say she prefers clothes - no problem with that
I think he wants to have some form of closure
Ryan is nice in rooms and polite to models :thumbsup

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Created by: suggs

4/2/09 @ 1:32pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Good analogy with the bar -- I mean you dont meet a stranger at a club and bend them over the counter to fuck them straight away.

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Created by: Camy Angel

4/2/09 @ 1:48pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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Ryan is talking about someone who promised to be naked
She took ALL the time he had while promissing to get nakd for him
Exit is ok - but also rude
It is ok to me to say the truth
She never naked is all
There is a Non Nude category . I seen just 1 model there in the past
I am sure there are many positive things that attracted him to her
Looks , voice , personality , etc
He has seen this model and had others also complain that she does not get nude for them
She should say she prefers clothes - no problem with that
I think he wants to have some form of closure
Ryan is nice in rooms and polite to models :thumbsup

I know how nice and sweet Ryan is. But if I was a guy taking a girl in private that has promised me to get naked and doesn't after some time I'll just leave. Usually this is rude, but as the new green pimp lines say Model x will answer your request in private, if the model doesn't, too bad for her. Let's not forget this is an adult site after all!

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Created by: ryangy

4/2/09 @ 3:07pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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It is completely the members choice if they want to go private or when they want to leave.

However lets say that you went private and you were being polite at first, not wanting to immediately just get in private and say "ok i'm here show me your tits and use your toy". So you maybe you take a few minutes to talk and THEN you want to get down to business. Well at this time you realize she isn't willing to do anything more than just sit and chat. This time period you spent was maybe 2-3 minutes, depending how considerate you are or what you want, maybe longer in some cases, but i'd say 2-3 minutes is a common amount of time some users will spend chating before they want to do stuff in private. Well that 2-3 minutes just cost you about $12-$18 or if they are Premiere it cost $18-$27 before you realized this isn't what you want and leave the experiance. Sure I admit maybe that isn't much money but that is time and money you could have spent with a model you would actually enjoy and get a pleasant experiance from. Or even money you could have spent tiping a model you already know you like.

And don't get me wrong, I'm NOT going to leave a bad review of her because I've never went private with her myself and I respect that I don't have the right to because of this, however you don't need to be in private to realize what is happening in this situation. And from most peoples advice here I'll stear clear of ever going to her room again. It's just a bit unfortunate that other members are going to have to spend $20 to figure out it's a bad time instead of using that $20 on a good experiance with a more deserving model.

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