I was going to buy some credits with my perfectly fine credit card. I have bought time in the past, no problems, and all of a sudden, I cannot buy credits with it on this site. Strange I thought. I have used it since and checked with the bank and my credit card is fine. The only thing I can think of is that there is now a need to complete a visa security authorisation online now that I didn't do since the last time I bought credit. Other than that I am at a loss.

So I contacted F4F customer support and they didn't respond. About a week or so back. I can only presume that they don't particularly want my custom anymore.

Oh well... I probably do have better things to spend my money on. And I don't have any favourites online any more that I talk to, so time to go. Quote

Time to find new favourites then... Quote

I was going to buy some credits with my perfectly fine credit card. I have bought time in the past, no problems, and all of a sudden, I cannot buy credits with it on this site. Strange I thought. I have used it since and checked with the bank and my credit card is fine. The only thing I can think of is that there is now a need to complete a visa security authorisation online now that I didn't do since the last time I bought credit. Other than that I am at a loss.
So I contacted F4F customer support and they didn't respond. About a week or so back. I can only presume that they don't particularly want my custom anymore.
Oh well... I probably do have better things to spend my money on. And I don't have any favourites online any more that I talk to, so time to go.


Call Customer Service - they are better in person on the phone
Emails spmetimes don't get answered for days [on weekends usually ] Emails are so much in a formatted 1 answer fits all problems [and it doesn't fit for me ]
I hope you stay and visit and develope new favorites
Most of my favorites are long gone from here . 1 even made a "guest appearance" yesterday after being gone 1 year .

Warning : Seeing naked models in privates may arrouse things Quote

"Time to go " yowzer - BAD joke ! I certain Support will soon correct mistake with ur card ! Stay with US )))) I will make u happy


And lil message to support : Yowzer plsplspls Quote

geeze yowzer.. thats no way to be.. i know that most all of your favorites are gone.. mine too.. i know if the models steal all the keys to your tracktors and pass them around you will have to stay to find them Quote

I was going to buy some credits with my perfectly fine credit card. I have bought time in the past, no problems, and all of a sudden, I cannot buy credits with it on this site. Strange I thought. I have used it since and checked with the bank and my credit card is fine. The only thing I can think of is that there is now a need to complete a visa security authorisation online now that I didn't do since the last time I bought credit. Other than that I am at a loss.
So I contacted F4F customer support and they didn't respond. About a week or so back. I can only presume that they don't particularly want my custom anymore.
Oh well... I probably do have better things to spend my money on. And I don't have any favourites online any more that I talk to, so time to go.


Proving again we will slowly lose the good people here and some how manage to always keep the silly people on active accounts..

Yowzer I have a funny feeling also if you did not get a reply it could be they never got the email, try calling them and resolving this. Also maybe check your email filtering software if you have any that its not blocking the vsmedia domains and if web mail check what the spam filter iss set to and any blocks you have setup.

All im going to say mate is sort it out I like seeing you good guys about, only thing that keeps some normality here. Lose you guys and some of the people I class as friends here and yes I will be hanging my hat too. Only reason I still visit here is due to some of the nice people I made friends with here and inbetween all that trying to help with any tech problem that I maybe able to help with. The site as an adult site or sex site does not intrest me.. I'm more into the chat and the fun side and yes I take models private when I can just to chat and cheer them up or do some silly funny thing with them and the guests.. I think some of the charm the site had in the past with the good guys about is slowly vanishing and yes we had more fun in the old days here with performers and it was not all about making them get naked in private.. With the room shifting while performers on break and whisper it has slowly eroded that fun part of the site that the guests had between each other and with the porformers.

Also the site is not all to blame too I have to say.. Some of the problems appear also when new performers appear from other sites and have the mentality of typing "private or bye" thats the new thing I'm seeing recently and there is a good few of them now that are making the site look bad to new customers.. The site is called flirt4free, what happened to the flirting and chatting? Also the headless models have started to re-appear too, many new performers sit there with their face never on show in open room.. So some filtering of poor performers needs to happen or help them understand how to work in this environment and how to wor being on flirt4free.. Flirt4free is a very different culture of people then the average user that visits this type of site, this is why we come here because we know there is more to it then the adult side and I believe this is what keeps most people here in the end.

The top performers here and there is many try bery hard to keep that fun aspect here and I thank you for that and you all know who you are, even when i'm quiet in your room and not involved in the chat you are so entertainign just to watch. Please keep it that way and don't go down the road of these performers that type "private or bye". Also before someone says to me these maybe new performers that don't speak english, i'm going to tell you now these are performers I have seen for many years doing this work and were on different sites in past and speak perfect english.


Also the monitors of the past need in some way to come back and need to seen, this helped alot and the VS tech Monitors I mean not the studio monitors. Some of the monitors of the past were allowed to be involved in the chat and helped alot to keep things in order.. Again VS monitors you know who you are and would like to see you guys and girls back helping in the ways you did in the past. You are all hidden and very quiet these days and you would even help customers in the rooms with account problems and other things that cropped up which was exactly what a serious customer needs when they have a problem. I knwo you guys/girls there get very busy there and have a juggling act somedays to keep this place running.


Ok rant over ... Short answer bring back old flirt4free that had some control over the problems and was very helpful to the customers and performers or slowly it will become just another site to many people that sits on their favourite list never to be clicked again.


Regards

Nabil Quote

There is a sort of filtering, if a model does very poorly ratio-wise she'll be deactivated. unfortunately there are girls on here that broadcast on other networks in an attempt to maximize exposure. but exposure isn't what it's all about, it's about making a connection and showing that you're a real person not just headless tits. definitely a quality over quantity thing.
the girls that sit there without talking other than to beg and not showing their faces will weed themselves out or learn, but of course there is a steady stream of replacements. there are two flirt4frees, a very professional high quality one and the other that isn't so glamorous, but they're mixed together and you have to pick your way through.

this is why we have "favorites" to mark Quote

Now obviously, I haven't been around here for very long.
I will say though, that a lot of my eagerness to work here came from the quality of the models and the ability to converse with clients via in site e-mail and forum!
I like having communication encouraged. I feel like I am given extra room to know fellow staff and clients on a more personal level, and that's a highly desirable thing for me.

I have been a little unsettled by some things I have seen lately while checking out F4F in my spare time.
I've seen someone falling asleep on cam, and once when I entered a room to say a few kind words to someone... I had them literally begging to take them pvt. I was gray. I had to explain to them the differences between gray, white and yellow members because they weren't aware. They even asked me to sponsor their kids to go to school.
I found it unsettling and worrying. I'm not going to sit here and say who should and shouldn't work on this site. I believe we all have the right to be here and try and earn a living.
I do believe all models should at least know the basics, know their rights, and know how to protect themselves here.

I could rant on forever about this subject, but I'll duct tape my lips shut and quickly vacate... for now. Quote

call customer support they are very helpful when you get them on the phone 1-800-685-9236 Quote

. I believe we all have the right to be here and try and earn a living.
I do believe all models should at least know the basics, know their rights, and know how to protect themselves here.


ALLURIA , that is the on thing I really respect from this site is they do allow models to try here no matter what they seem like.. but in the past they would notice some of the problems and try help the performers and when they for example fell asleep they would close their rooms without having to email them and highlight the problem. We al get tired its normal if we work long hours and hey I have fallen asleep at my more then one time when had a huge work load. Difference is here is the performer has no privacy when asleep, this is why I do mail the site and let them know if they can go by the room and stick it on break or close it till the model wakes up.

Thank you all for commenting and noticing these things too.. that was exatcly in most cases my point here too..

Regards

Nabil Quote

the girls that sit there without talking other than to beg and not showing their faces will weed themselves out or learn, but of course there is a steady stream of replacements. there are two flirt4frees, a very professional high quality one and the other that isn't so glamorous, but they're mixed together and you have to pick your way through.
this is why we have "favorites" to mark


CHELSEY_EDEN agree again , just as you know in the past it was more balanced to the quality side.. what is worrying is in time it could move to become like every other site out there .. This is the main reason i'm on this site and I do think it is the last of it's kind remaining.. That's why I say more control and help the performers with some guidance when they are seen to be going down the wrong road. You have no idea how hard I try with some performers somedays, you know why ? Because I really do see them doing well here if they change their attitude or just make small changes in other areas.

You know I have found from personal experience here it's easier to make a new girl new to this business starting here a big thing.. but the jaded ones that come from other sites are hard work and very cheeky in most cases.. Again I will say not all fall into this section .. some great ones too that came from other sites and got into the swing of how flirt4free works.


You know one of the things I like about this forum ? Like seeing you performers helping each other out and i'm seeing some really good advice from the performers here that have worked here a while.. so ladies and gents working here keep it up.. maybe only way to keep it at a quality level that you want is in this way..


Have a nice Sunday all.

Regards

Nabil Quote