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Male Performer Chat: Chat Party
Steele Ryder
Created by: Steele Ryder

2/18/14 @ 7:07pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

So I'm thinking about doing my 1st chat party. Normally I just do open chat, but I want a challenge lol... Anyways, anyone have any tips on doing a chat party? Or is it better just doing regular chat? Just curious.

Thanks :D
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Alex Storm
Created by: Alex Storm

2/18/14 @ 7:59pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

So I'm thinking about doing my 1st chat party. Normally I just do open chat, but I want a challenge lol... Anyways, anyone have any tips on doing a chat party? Or is it better just doing regular chat? Just curious.

Thanks :D



from my personal experience..i dont like the party chat ....but try it out and you will see lol. I think the party chat is not the best option for beginners like us
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zyxwv098
Created by: zyxwv098

2/18/14 @ 8:40pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Posts: 883

So I'm thinking about doing my 1st chat party. Normally I just do open chat, but I want a challenge lol... Anyways, anyone have any tips on doing a chat party? Or is it better just doing regular chat? Just curious.

Thanks :D


I am not a huge fan of party chats, though some I have participated in were very enjoyable. It is probably better to stick to doing regular chats or, if anything, group chats instead. While the party chat MAY have a chance for earning more credits, it is not a guaranteed thing. Also, party chats often end up being only a few members tipping really well, or a larger group of members tipping small, and a whole lot of non-tippers (usually referred to by members and models alike as freeloaders) who will make demand after demand and encourage others to tip while never offering a single tip themselves. In some cases, this behavior might be acceptable if the member is a known fan of the model who does his/her share during open chats or other party chats when he/she has credits, and most regulars will accept this member's urging of tips. However, more often than not these are members who just want a free show and expect others to pay for their entertainment.

A group chat, on the other hand, while it may have a pre-set goal which might be met and then never exceeded, also ensures that the model receives at least the pledged credits (assuming the goal is met), and often those who pledge to join will also offer tips during the group show. This also prevents the freeloaders from getting their free show and making their repeated requests; those that want to request anything have to pledge to do so.

There are several threads debating the pros and cons of party chats and group chats. You may want to take a look at them.

If you are determined to do a party chat, though, you have several options. You can set goals to be met, like 100 c to take of your shirt, 200 c to take of your pants/shorts, etc., up to X number of credits to do a**play or use a dildo or even a cumshow. You can request tips to flash this or that, for a reasonable amount of time, and if members want to keep seeing what they're seeing, they need to keep tipping. Other models have done different things to make a party chat work for them.

Models might have objections to this, and I apologize to them, but I suggest you DISCREETLY observe other party chats to see how well they work or don't work, and then decide if a party chat is something you want to do.
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Steele Ryder
Created by: Steele Ryder

2/18/14 @ 8:54pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

Thanks for the advice! =-)
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Created by: gofish

2/19/14 @ 4:34pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Location: IN YOUR DREAMS
Posts: 2,119

Steele Ryder while some models may not be keen on the party chat it does open a new door for more actual members to connect with you. Alex there is probably right about what he said (dang sexy little stud :offtopic ), but just remember even in party chat you are always in control of what you wish to do.
Trying out any of the options provided by the site is always a good thing. Making that connection with those who make return visits to your room is always a good thing.
As I say with all models I talk to ...I wish you all the best on the site. :thumbsup
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Jacob Burn
Created by: Jacob Burn

2/20/14 @ 2:58am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

So I'm thinking about doing my 1st chat party. Normally I just do open chat, but I want a challenge lol... Anyways, anyone have any tips on doing a chat party? Or is it better just doing regular chat? Just curious.

Thanks :D



I think chat party is a good thing for beginners! Just dont stop and dont be shy. Say to all i am a super man for chat party)))
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Alex Storm
Created by: Alex Storm

2/21/14 @ 6:51pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

Steele Ryder while some models may not be keen on the party chat it does open a new door for more actual members to connect with you. Alex there is probably right about what he said (dang sexy little stud :offtopic ), but just remember even in party chat you are always in control of what you wish to do.
Trying out any of the options provided by the site is always a good thing. Making that connection with those who make return visits to your room is always a good thing.
As I say with all models I talk to ...I wish you all the best on the site. :thumbsup



This time I don't agree with u, its good for members, but not for models ;)
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Brett025
Created by: brett025

2/21/14 @ 8:22pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Posts: 1,170




This time I don't agree with u, its good for members, but not for models ;)


I agree. I don't care for party chats anymore, I much prefer group chats. In MOST of the party chats I have taken part in, the overwhelming majority of members don't tip and just enjoy the show while a few of us actually tip to keep it going. At least in group chats, the freeloaders aren't allowed in once the show starts. :twocents
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Steele Ryder
Created by: Steele Ryder

2/21/14 @ 11:50pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

Well I tried it and it actually went pretty good, but I don't like it too much honestly. The freeloaders are what bothers me. They get to watch just by staring. Going 4 a group chat next time ;)
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zyxwv098
Created by: zyxwv098

2/21/14 @ 11:55pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Posts: 883

Well I tried it and it actually went pretty good, but I don't like it too much honestly. The freeloaders are what bothers me. They get to watch just by staring. Going 4 a group chat next time ;)


Well, we did warn you...but it's good that you experienced it at least once. Good luck with the group chat!

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Created by: gofish

2/22/14 @ 2:31am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Location: IN YOUR DREAMS
Posts: 2,119

Alex Storm is right up to a point in that party chat is good for members, but one has to remember the model always has a choice as to what they wish to do in party chat. If I am correct party chat blocks out all the grey non-members which is often a good thing. Basically any form of chat should be considered a good thing if the model is able to connect with those members who return to the room. Party chat can sometimes encourage members to speak up if nothing else.
At the end of the day just what does the model end up losing by doing a party chat once in a while?
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Brett025
Created by: brett025

2/22/14 @ 4:44am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Posts: 1,170

Well I tried it and it actually went pretty good, but I don't like it too much honestly. The freeloaders are what bothers me. They get to watch just by staring. Going 4 a group chat next time ;)


Good choice on Group Chats Steele, and for members its a great way to get to know you for usually around 50 credits. From all my experience party chats just encourage most to go silent and enjoy the show. Only a few engage and participate with credits, which is typically the goal.
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zyxwv098
Created by: zyxwv098

2/22/14 @ 4:50am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Posts: 883

Alex Storm is right up to a point in that party chat is good for members, but one has to remember the model always has a choice as to what they wish to do in party chat. If I am correct party chat blocks out all the grey non-members which is often a good thing. Basically any form of chat should be considered a good thing if the model is able to connect with those members who return to the room. Party chat can sometimes encourage members to speak up if nothing else.
At the end of the day just what does the model end up losing by doing a party chat once in a while?


gofish, I'm sorry, but I must respectfully disagree with you and side with Alex Storm on this: party chats benefit the members, not the models.

You're right that the model has the choice of what to do in party chat, but those choices are limited by a) what will appeal to the members, and b) what will encourage members to tip to sustain the party chat. And it is true that Party chat does block out the grey guest-users. However, it doesn't block out the freeloaders who settle into a party chat room and do nothing but watch, expecting other members to do all the tipping. Can the model "connect with those members who return to the room"? Yes, but these are probably already the model's regulars, and the ones probably doing the most tipping. And party chat might encourage members to speak up, but often times it's going to be requests/demands for something without an accompanying tip.

Finally, consider this: while a model is in party chat, no members can take him into private. If the party chat is going well with members tipping, yes, the model can do quite well. But, if the party chat is reduced to only a handful of tippers or a lot of tippers who tip minimally--just enough to keep party chat going but no more--the model could end up in, say, a 30-minute party chat that earns no more than 600 credits (possibly even less). Compared to his regular rate (say, perhaps, 60 cpm), if he were in private for 30 minutes, he'd be earning 1800 credits. If his rate is higher, the difference would be even greater. And while a model could possibly relax during a private chat--depending on what the member wants--in party he always has to be "on" in order to encourage tipping. That is a lot of effort for minimal recompense.

What can a model lose? Quite a bit.

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Created by: forgottenclone

2/22/14 @ 6:07am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Location: Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult
Posts: 799

8 Reasons I've seen an "Experienced" Performer risk a Party Chat.

1. The Instant Flush---To get rid of large group of annoying greys instead of banning them all one by one.

2. The Wallet Peek---To see who in their room at least has 200 credits in their wallet (yep, they can see just like a group pledge, in addition to seeing who is purchasing credits while in their room and who is willing to spend). Not a bad roll of the dice for a few minutes of SHOW ASS comments.

3. The Cattle Call---To fill up an empty room quickly. (Lest we forget that the more members in their room the higher they appear on the page, even temporarily. While quantity doesn't equal quality, it may accidentally bring in brand new potential fans that have never visited their room before}.

4. The Tease--A prelude to a group show or a pvt (See #2, once they identify how many members have at least 200 credits, they have a better chance at estimating what they can set a group chat for or which tipping members to hone in on specifically afterward).

5. The Negotiation--A "polite" counteroffer to a make-an-offer show. (If a member makes an offer that is far below what a performer thinks is fair, a model may suggest a party in order not to insult the offering member thus getting the him to spend his credits plus the chance to possibly earn more without giving having to agree to a definite outcome or time period).

6. The Grift---to promote an upcoming contest, event, fan club, new twitter account, request for boost points etc, etc,. It's up to the performer what goes on in a party chat. It's still considered open chat so they ALWAYS have the choice to show ALL, a peek or nothing at all. While most members assume there will be some kind of "show", it doesn't necessarily have to involve anything hardcore.

7. The Apology---When a private or group show gets inadvertently but totally fucked up by a technical difficulty, loss of internet connection, missed cumshot etc etc.

8. The Actual Party- To stir up excitement and energy on a slow night. (Yes, incredulous as it sounds, models DO get bored sitting or talking for hours and freeloaders know it. A party chat gives them a reason to get up and move, stretch, pose, flex etc etc and still having earning potential. Let's not be naive, times are hard right now for a lot of these guys, new and veteran alike, a good party tipper or two in a room full of cheapos is better than no tipper at all.

***My suggestion to the newbies is that if they are getting bombarded with party chat requests or want to try it, post in your banner specifically what you are willing to do and for how much, then ask of few tipping members to "start the party" BEFORE you hit that Party Chat button. Never jump into Party without a plan.

:twocents:

Postscript: For the record. I personally abhor Party Chats, but I concede sometimes they are a necessary evil here on F$F.




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