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Created by: bolendo

7/22/07 @ 11:00pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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I wonder if anyone saw Satu tonight in a rare private where he alledgedly came. After the usual long foreplay, the facial expressions seemed to change, but at the crucial moment he raised his lower body above camera level and a split second later there were at least five spurts of cum on his abs. Although I had doubts I kept quiet, but others voiced them for me in the room. His response was not of a guy who had just had a pent-up orgasm, but was surly and over defensive, which I think rather gave his game away. Has anyone alse seen this guy come credibly? I was a fan of his, as my review on his bio testifies, but I am having second thoughts. Help me guys, I need my faith restored!

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Created by: louisphillippe

7/23/07 @ 1:26am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Dear Bolendo: just my honest opinion...but I think this model in particular is a very honest

hardworking young man besides rather innocent yet to do something so deceaving.

Most Slovakians are very honest models...they depend on their good name and word of mouth and their studios

keep an eye on them...they have lines of people to be replaced by.

If i were going to suspect anything about him is the fact that he must be 100% heterosexual ( a + to me)not bi

like 98% of the models claim to be. "Unattached" "versatile" " xxx inches" bios and others figures are greately

exagerated personal details...but not in Satu's case it sems to me.

He doesen't have yet that many privates to be forced to fake it like that...he's young healthy strong and

yes....stunning!. ( Someone like him can make me belive in Santa Claus,the Tooth Fairy and Peter Pan)

They desperately need their jobs so I see it far fetched....but I have been wrong before in my life

I always give the beneffit of the doubt tending to the positive side... :thumbsup

Happy chassing.!!! :drinkup

You might hear opposite feed back to mine also... :winkwink

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Created by: shermky

7/23/07 @ 8:31pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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I saw Satu's private that you are talking about. Even though I think he is HOT.... I do believe he faked his cum shot in this private. He raised his hips so you could not see his hands or cock and then after a few seconds he lowers his hips and miraculously his abs are covered with cum. Not a little but a lot. It appeared very fake to me. And yes several people called him out on it, questioning whether he had faked his cum.

From my observation, it appeared staged to me.

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Created by: bolendo

7/23/07 @ 10:48pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Thanks ShermKY - in addition, (without wanting to be too pernickety) I distinctly remember that the material had been liberally smeared across his abs, and not as it should have been, as if it had been fired from a central point. There was not time for all of it to have been shot in the time available between the frames.

Such a pity, as it takes away from the 'sharing of the intimacy' which is after all what we all value so much. What can we expect from a 'high achiever in his field" - he does show a certain brooding contempt for what he has to do here, as he is more used to the bright lights and instant adulation from the ring. Reading the dialogue between Satu and his various clients immediately after their privates, it seems he doesn't ever respond to e mails either, although maybe here someone will prove me wrong on this.

Well, as has been liberally stated before, we have various categories of models here. We won't ever be able to change them so we will have to live with what we have available. However, maybe with enough prior comments in his open room, we can persuade Satu to give us a real live orgasm, with appropriate camera proof. Now that would be a show worth seeing.

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Created by: louisphillippe

7/24/07 @ 2:12am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Bolendo....I forgot to mention I did not see the actual private...the signs point to a deffinetly

staged orgasm...what a pity.

Such a young promissing smart stunning guy...

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I myself feel cheated also...that's why I always insist that the actual orgasm must be a close up of

the head...no moving around....or on the thigh or chest were I can actually see it spurting out.

For sure I will no longer visit him either...but it is essential to let him know (either by f4f email or a

2 minutes long private) that we are all on to him and his tricks...in fact there must be a recording

of the private kept by Support I think. It could cost him his job.

He is very cold and aloof after the private I must addmit...not even thankful or happy....I realize now

he wants you gone right away after the private for some strange reason...I though he was shy...

or ashamed of what he did for the client.....but now I smell a skunk !

:mad

If my money is real I want the real thing too!!! That's what I'm paying for not hand cream.

:twocents

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Created by: bolendo

7/24/07 @ 1:43pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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I don't think he deserves to be run off the site - that would be a great loss to Flirt, and to those who he stimulates and makes happy.

I think that he should be told by visitors to his room who want to private him that we are not as stupid as he may think, and are not so easily fooled (in a nice way). We should all encourage him to produce real, visual, fantastic cum shots, and then the number of his privates would increase.

Over to you guys.

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Created by: ourjeffie

7/24/07 @ 6:12pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Sorry, I have a zero tolerance policy for deliberately deceptive behaviour. As louisphillippe says, we pay with real dollars, not with fake dollars, so we have a right to expect the real thing, not a fake cumshot. There are plenty of models on this site who NEVER fake their cumshots

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Created by: louisphillippe

7/24/07 @ 10:00pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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...Amen!!! For fake I use my imagination or a magazin.

0 tolerance also for me.

Go to work in fake4free at 0.19 a minute.

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Created by: bolendo

7/27/07 @ 4:32pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Since posting, I have heard various opinions both in and out of chatrooms, on this subject in general, and with this model in particular.

There have been, it is fair to say, a number of well-known and reliable VIP members who have stood firm and stated that this model has performed flawlessly in private for them. For them, and maybe rightly so, they don't see what the fuss is about.

This model is a great showman, has worked hard over long hours and has clearly generated many fans, even although he is still relatively new to the site. He is also 18 years of age, which is relatively young for the adult porn world and its demanding observers, into which he has pitched himself.

I am prepered to give the lad the benefit of the doubt, and hope he continues to entertain, have a bit of fun, while making a modest buck, and manages to learn and take something from the experiences which interfacing with our varied clientele inevitably produce.

After all, these gentlemen bring us all a fair dose of stimulation and even (some of us) a kind of substitute companionship. The joy in their faces when they come (cum?) is something I personally think is a privilage to watch. I, for one, will not be raising any more doubts about anyone's performance on this site.

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Created by: geoff28

7/28/07 @ 3:15pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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This reminds me of a model called Cristi who still occasionally appears on F4F and the famous day a while back when he shot 12 times in one day .. I think it was 7 times in the morning shift and 5 in the afternoon .. I saw four of them .. all genuine and no fakes .. and other viewers who were in and out of his room during the day confirmed all the remainder .. it was a real talking point, though of course towards the end there was hardly anything left in his balls ... but all credit to Cristi for the making the attempts ... I forget now which country he's in (Slovakia or Bulgaria?) but I told him they should make the date a National Holiday each year .. he said when he got home that night he thought he'd jerk off as usual before he went to sleep but he gave up cos he was too tired !

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Created by: bolendo

7/28/07 @ 6:09pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Well, of course this now begs the question - can we set up a competition amongst our model friends who can come (cum) the most times during their shift. There could also be a sub-callenge as to who could shoot the fastest from a "non-standing" start!

This, of course, is all very impractical and even more highly unlikely, as the economic model (talked about at length in the general discussion section) would rule that it in the site's interest and the model's interest to get as many minutes out of their client before hitting that high.

There are at least two names that are the exception to this rule however - Slaner is one model who is well known to be a veritable fountain of youth, delivering as regularly as an Icelandic geyser to the delight of all before him.

The other was a surprise to me, as a model who shall remain nameless, reacting to a request to peak within a given timescale responded glumly "if you want to see a quick cum go to Frygyes's room - he can cum in five minutes!"

Is this subject worthy of a separate thread, or is it better destined to remain as legend, buried deep within our subconsciousness..........

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Created by: hairy23

7/29/07 @ 8:53pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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Watched Satu in open room and in pvt tonight and he is definitely my candidate for.....
BOTM.......Bore of the Month
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Created by: focus2005

8/17/10 @ 11:22pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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This happened to me tonight with a model in private. He was supposed to nut on his desk - it was agreed upon by both of us. I noticed that he had some lotion in his left hand when he was stroking pretty hard. All of a sudden the stroking gets really slow and he abruptly ends the show even though I still had time left. When I tried to get back into private with him he was really cold and basically claimed that he wasn't "feelin it" anymore - even though he agreed to do it.

I contacted customer service and they only credited me back 5 minutes - it still hurts quite a bit as I have spent lots of time with this model previously... :mad

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Created by: iamcumluvr

10/9/10 @ 11:30am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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The fake cumshots happening more frequently is due to the overall deterioration of this website. I have noticed a lot of models coming to f4f from livejasmin. Most of them are trash models who are doing the same things here that they do on the other site, i.e. fake cumshots, promise to cum in pvt but do not deliver, etc. If I want to put up with that kind of crap, I can see it for 1.99 per minute versus 5.99 (or more) here. Since f4f is considered a "premium" site, the should only allow "premium" models to perform here. It would benefit the site and the members here if f4f would get rid of these models instead of coddling them and defending them when a complaint is made.

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Created by: louisphillippe

10/11/10 @ 2:07am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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I absolutely agree 100%..... :evil

If I want fake I know where to go but these type of incidents shouldn't happen in a EXTRA SUPER DUPER EXCLUSIVE and expensive site like F4F at all. :mad

Also lately the tremendous overflow of models that come and go in a week or less has made F4F a dizzying models momentary hang out. :guitar

I miss the good old days when we knew the majority of the models and made friends with them and the other members.

Now it is "Hello my name is XXXXX and I'm from Xxxxx XXxx and....Good bye!!!" I feel the essence of this site has changed tremendously because the only thing that is for sure is that YOUR favorite model won't be here next time...

Sad...very sad.
:drinkup

But to the ones that will say variety is much better and the more the merrier I feel they are missing out the best part of been here:
FRIENDSHIP..!!!! :guitar

NOW DAYS IT IS ONLY FOREVER CHANGING STRANGERS!!.

All these things are personal and many will disagree but I just gave you my usual :twocents

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Created by: gayslave4u

11/7/10 @ 12:41pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Beware of Brady H. He is another model that gives fake cumshots. Don't bother wasting your money on him.

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Created by: zackl

11/10/10 @ 8:14am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Hmmm... I'm new here and I think have experienced cases like these before. Well, another point to add, I think we also need to consider a model's ability to "perform". Best is to ask them if they can fulfill your requests before going into private chat with them. That's a better way than to spend money on private and then realise that it's fake.

I think there are times also when we need to let the models have a break. I mean they cannot be cumming from one session to the next consecutively due to popular demand. The models get tired maybe after 2-3 cum shots even though they be watching porn to keep themselves up.

On a side note, some of the models here are simply irresistible. :winkwink

I feel like getting to know them better. @.@ Is it prohibited here?

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Created by: gayslave4u

11/10/10 @ 8:49pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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I feel like getting to know them better. @.@ Is it prohibited here?

I always ask the model before the private and after the private begins if he is going to cum. The model says yes and then gives fake cum. That is a dishonest practice that this site should not tolerate, no matter what the excuse from the model. If a model has already cum 2-3 times and cannot cum again, he should let the members know that up front. That is yet another problem - the models who say yes they can cum and then don't fulfill their promise. Another dishonest practice that should not be tolerated by this site.

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Created by: zackl

11/10/10 @ 10:57pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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I always ask the model before the private and after the private begins if he is going to cum. The model says yes and then gives fake cum. That is a dishonest practice that this site should not tolerate, no matter what the excuse from the model. If a model has already cum 2-3 times and cannot cum again, he should let the members know that up front. That is yet another problem - the models who say yes they can cum and then don't fulfill their promise. Another dishonest practice that should not be tolerated by this site.

Yes, if they mention that they can deliver then they cannot do it later, then they should be penalised.

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