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Male Performer Chat: 20-Point Member Guide from a Model's Perspective

Created by: Adam Foxx

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Wow.

Very good read.

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Are you curious as to how to help ensure that you have a great experience with model here at Flirt4Free? Read on Dear Member and keep these 20 points top of mind. (Please note that this is a repost of an earlier post I wrote�with grammar/spelling corrected and reposted at the request of several members for use as a sticky topic in this forum.) :guitar

1) If you choose a model from the top-20 you are very likely to have a positive experience as these are (generally) models that are experienced in the art of flirting, seduction, positive customer service and have fun with their modeling. The list can be found at http://www.flirt4free.com/models/top20.php This is not to say (of course) that models not ranked in the top-20 are not quality models, but this can often times be a great starting point for a new member to find their first "favorite model". :bulb

2) Being a cam model is a "customer service" orientated job, in many respects. But just like with any other type of role, sometimes customers' (in this case members) can be very rude or demeaning and it can�and often times WILL�affect a model's mood (unfortunately). Most, if not all of the top models understand how to handle these types of extreme members. :bowdown

Personally, I just ignore negative people, because I don't want it to affect my mood or my modeling. The VAST MAJORITY of members are very kind people, so I choose to just focus on those type of members. Life is too short for negativity in my book. So remember: Being a dick is bad; Having a dick is good. :winkwink

3) VODs are an excellent source of "preview material" to learn how a model interacts with members in private/multi-user chat. If you are seeking out a new model for the first time, I highly suggest watching a VOD or two to learn more about a model. :bulb

Please also understand that if your ONLY "interaction" with a model is by watching FREE VODs (on the VIP side) or just watching the FREE VOD previews--and never spending credits on the model--it is unlikely that they will spend much time interacting with you. Models prefer a balanced mix so that everyone mutually benefits. :winkwink

4) Take some time to get to know a model in open/free chat. There is a higher degree of uncertainty (for a member) when s/he immediately takes a model to private chat based on looks alone. Even spending a mere 5-10 minutes talking with a model in open/free chat can help to provide a member with insight into a model's personality�that often times will result in a more positive experience once you do go private with the model. Please also know that if ALL you do is talk and never spend credits, eventually a model will get the hint and focus on those members that DO spend credits (again�this is our job). It isn�t personal. :angel

5) Very often, a model is constantly asked (and often times COMMANDED) to get nude in open/free chat: "Show cock!" "Show me your asshole!" Etc. Etc. The majority of times this comes from either grey users (non-members) or new members. Seasoned members tend not to behave in this manner. (But we all know that this is not always the case.) As this is a business (as well as a fun place to "work"--I use the term "work" very loosely, as it never has felt like a job to me�it's usually pretty fun), it is VERY polite to offer a model a tip if you have a request that you would like to see in open/free (and party) chat. You should then WAIT for a confirmation from the model that this is agreeable to him before you send the tip!!! :bulb

For instance a member could say, "If I send you 100 credits now, can I see the sexy jock strap that you mentioned?" Wait for the model to say something like, "Sure! That would be cool." At this point, you should send the tip. Give the model a few seconds to respond with the agreed upon action (sometimes there is a slight delay between when you send the msg/tip and when the model sees it). If the model doesn't follow through on an agreed upon interaction--chances are that he is not a model that you would want to take to private chat anyway. A quality model ALWAYS follows through on his word!!! :thumbsup

6) Politeness: I can only speak for myself on this one, but my "top fans" are the most amazing men. They treat me with respect, dignity, ask how my day is going (and are genuinely interested--not faking it), remember details about my private life that I share with them, say "please," "thank you," etc., and are just super awesome guys to interact with. Every day, when I see a member that I have had a positive interaction with because (among many things) they have had manners, I get really excited because these members bring a very positive energy to my room and I look forward to interacting with them every time! :bowdown

A related item to politeness is what I refer to as Debbie Downers. Flirt4Free is for all intents and purposes a fantasy world where your sexual fantasies can become reality. Top models try their very best to keep their open/free chat rooms lively, entertaining, sexy, humorous, sensual, etc. In short, we're trying to make sure that you have FUN and enjoy yourselves before you take us private/multi-chat...where we hope that you'll have an even better time with us!!! And then a member comes into the room and absolutely kills the vibe/mood/sexiness (whatever you want to call it) with a mood killer. "I have cancer & just had my 3rd chemo treatment." " I'm dying." "My boss at work is an asshole." "I'm lonely & wish that I had someone to love me." "My dog ran away." Etc. Etc. :

It's absolutely NOT that a model "does not care" about a member's life challenges. It's just that our open chat rooms are NOT NOT NOT the proper forum for such discussions. :mad

It makes OTHER members leave the room. It puts a model in a VERY uncomfortable situation. Models are not trained to be therapists--and honestly, would you really want us to be? It is akin to going to a cocktail party, arriving and immediately announcing, "Hey everyone--my doctor says I have 48 hours to live. I'd like all the focus on me now. Screw the host." In short--it's just bad manners. :drinkup

If model engages such a member, he runs the very real risk or having everyone else exiting his room. If he ignores the member, he'll be viewed as an asshole. But we DO care!!! If you have a problem that you would like to discuss, please email the model about what is going on or just take the model to a private CHAT. (I say this with the GREATEST respect. In reality, the vast majority of models are ill-equipped to handle such sensitive topics and open chat is really just not the forum to air such extremely personal matters.) :guitar

7) Rude Members: It happens to EVERY model...nearly EVERY day. "You're ugly!" "You're too skinny!" "You're too muscular!" "You're not my type!" Blah. Blah. Blah. Want to know how to endear yourself to a model forever? Come to his defense! I have BIG almond shaped eyes (that I personally LOVE), but recently a rude member came into my room and said something like, "Fuck you're ugly & have huge bug eyes!" For a split second, I was very upset (unusual for me)...UNTIL a few moments later I had SEVERAL other members say things like, "I think you're beautiful Adam!" "If you don't have anything nice to say--leave Adam's room!" "Don't be rude to Adam--he's super nice and sexy!" I'm telling you guys--it made my day AND I immediately was in a FANTASTIC mood!!!!! I took notes on EVERY person that said something nice and made a mental note to treat them extra special every time they came to my room in the future. Oh�and models talk to each other and we WILL know who the rude members are. If you can�t understand why a certain model won�t give you the time of day, it�s most likely because you were rude to one of his friends�and he�s already heard the whole story and wants nothing to do with you. The morale? Be nice, friendly and respectful, and you�ll never have to worry about it. :thumbsup

8) Other Models: It is considered VERY bad etiquette to talk about another model in a model's room. Naturally, we are competing with each other. To the model, it comes across as mean-spirited, disrespectful and "trolling". THAT SAID--I am well known for talking about other models in my room that I am friends with. If I feel that a member's needs/wants would be better served by another model, I don�t hesitate to suggest another model to the member. I want EVERY member to have a VERY positive experience on Flirt4Free!!! :guitar

Believe it or not, many models are VERY good friends with each other (on and off cam) and consider each other FRIENDLY COMPETITION. We support each other, motivate each other and lend an ear after/during difficult days. I personally would not be able to function without the support of my male and female model friends/colleagues that I have become close with. I value their friendship & mentorship. :angel

Quality top models also understand that MOST members are not "monogamous" (generally) with ONE model. I think it would be sort of silly to assume such an idea. So when one of my fans asks me (politely), "Adam, could you recommend a muscular model to me that you think highly of?" or "Adam, I love what you do in private chat--can you suggest another model like you?" I always have a few models that I can think of to suggest. One recent experience in particular comes to mind. A VERY NICE man that regularly takes me private revealed to me that he is bisexual and was intimidated by the sheer volume of female models on the site and asked me who I believed would be a model that would fit his personality & interests." Without hesitating I answered, "My friend, you MUST get to know Taisa!!! We have a very strong friendship, and I personally believe that you and she would get along famously! Let me know how it goes!" A few days later, he was also kind enough to let me know that he did indeed take me up on my suggestion and had a great time. That was super awesome to hear!

On the flip-side�and I know that most of you won�t believe this�models are also not monogamous with any one member. :winkwink

9) Other Models, Part 2: My personal belief is that members PREFER that competing models get along with each other and don't fight amongst themselves. You will NEVER hear me speak ill about other models in my room. EVER! If a model does speak badly about other models, you may generally assume that they are not models (the one doing the bad mouthing) that you would want to spend credits on. They may lack confidence or are just be mean in general. On the flip side, I will NEVER allow a member EVER to speak badly about another member in my room. NEVER EVER!! I find it rude and disrespectful. After doing it once, I will always ask the member not to act in such a manner with a respectful "warning". If they do it again, I will immediately ban the member from my room. No questions asked. And as previously mentioned, models DO talk about members. Please don�t risk become a pariah by acting in such a manner. We WILL find out from each other. :thumbsup

10) If you have specific fetishes, interests, etc. that you would like to know if the model enjoys, please whisper them to the model or send a quick email BEFORE you go private. Wait for a reply. If the model likes those things too, THEN take the model private. No sense wasting your credits if you and the model do not enjoy the same things. Also, I would humbly suggest having realistic expectations & to respect a model�s boundaries. For example, I am known on this site as being "The Huge Dildo Master�. Inserting large dildos takes time. :bulb

A member should not expect that I--or any other model--is going to shove a massive dildo in my hole within 7 seconds of entering private chat. Doing so would actually harm us physically. Models need to themselves myself up" with fingers, lube, etc. and ease his way into such a hot experience. That way when the dildo does go in, he can really go to town and give members a fucking fantastically hot show! In a related topic: If you have only a couple of minutes on the clock in private chat, please don�t ask to see 4,000 acts of debauchery within that time frame. It�s not going to happen. Models are HUMANS�not robots. Well, except for the ones that are�and even then, they are more cyborg than robot, so common sense should still be exorcised. :orglaugh

11) Deception: We've all seen & experienced it on the site. A member talks up a model for a lengthy period and then says something like, "Let me go get credits--I'll be right back." 99% of the time--the member never returns. Or the member disappears for a few hours or days and starts the whole thing back up again from ground zero. Similar to how a member does not enjoy his time wasted--a model does not enjoy this either. Typically, these types of members prey on new models. Seasoned models generally just ignore this sort of behavior & focus on the good guys. Personally, I don't feed into it, because I have learned the "signs" of such a member, and prefer to spend time communicating with my honest members. THAT SAID--if a member whispers to me, "I don't have credits right now, but I really enjoy talking with you in open chat," I really RESPECT that level of honesty and I WILL continue to speak with the member!!!!! Honesty is SEXY to me--and to most other top-models!!! :bowdown

12) Begging: Simply put--it isn't sexy. A model that will ask/command a member to take him private 2.5 seconds after he enters the model's room is one that you want to avoid. Why? It is likely that the model is not going to be respectful of the member or his patronage or friendship. On the flip side, if you request something of the model and he respectful says, "no," a member needs to return the respect and drop it. Continually asking for something is just begging in reverse and will lead to the model ignoring your communications in the future. The moral? Respect runs both ways: model to member and member to model. :bulb

13) Contact Information: It is grounds for immediate termination for a model to give his email address, phone number, address, or direct the member to any other website to communicate with the model (Skype, Yahoo, A4A, etc.). The rules are CRYSTAL CLEAR--if a model does it, he gets fired. So PLEASE DO NOT ASK FOR CONTACT INFORMATION from the model. You are putting the model in a VERY awkward position when you do so. Further�and most importantly�it is unsafe for a model! Also, members are PROHIBITED from giving THEIR contact information! Doing so will get the member banned from the site FOR LIFE. It's not worth the risk. :winkwink

The ONLY TIME that a member may give his phone number is DURING private chat, so that he and the model can talk on the phone during private chat instead of typing. A model generally needs to have the permission from his studio in order to have this privilege. Models that have this privilege are trusted by their studio and are usually proven, top-models. Again, it is NOT a right--but rather, a privilege. Please ask a model BEFORE you go to private chat if he is allowed to use the phone. Not all models are given the privilege. :guitar

14) Reviews & Power Boost Points: If you have a positive interaction with a model in private chat, multi-user chat, open/free chat or party chat, please feel free to write a kind review and/or send power boost points. This makes the model very happy and pretty much guarantees special treatment in the future. Please note that models are NOT paid for power boost points--only credits. So please don't say, "If I send power boost points, will you show this or that." They are sent because you are being nice as a special reward to those models that you enjoy spending time with. Power boost points help models (a little bit) with their ranking--not their paycheck. :bulb

15) Money: Models are NOT NOT NOT allowed to talk about how they are paid or how much they make amongst themselves or to members. Doing so will result (generally) in immediate termination. Please do not ask such questions. Besides--it's not sexy to talk about money in life or on Flirt. As a GENERAL RULE (and obvious one at that): "Premiere" models (those making MORE than 60 credits per minute in PRIVATE chat) are the models that make more money--I say obvious, because if a model makes (for example) 70 credits per minute, they are clearly making more than 60 credits per minute ;) Premiere models are just what it sounds like--the premiere models on the site. They are (generally) the proven quality/top models on the site. If you see a Premiere model, chances are you're going to have a great time with a top-model at Flirt! Also, a member should not ask a model to lower his rate. This is disrespectful. Further, while some models have discretion over what their CPM (credits per minute) rate are, most don�t. :drinkup

16) Responses: As I'm sure most of you realize, there are days when a model's room is VERY FULL with members and it is very difficult to keep up with all the comments and questions being directed towards a model. Please do not get upset if a model doesn't answer you within 5 seconds. Personally, I type 90 words per minute, plus I talk (A LOT--LOL), so it's generally not an issue for me...but WOW sometimes even I can't keep up with everyone. I (and most models) try our best and we hope that you understand that. :thumbsup

17) Whispers: Top-models (myself included) prefer that members ONLY use the whisper function when you have something private to say or ask us. Obviously when a member whispers--the other members can't see the comment/question. Also, a model does NOT have the capability to whisper back--so he must respond so that others can hear/see the response. This can be confusing for others members and/or disrupt the flow of the room. If it's one or two questions, I generally just respond, "To the person that just whispered...blah blah blah." If it is more involved than that, it is generally preferable to just send an email through the site. :bulb

18) Emails: Again, models can ONLY email through the site. EVERY SINGLE EMAIL is checked by monitors. Because of this, there is USUALLY a small (sometimes large) delay between when a member sends a model an email and when the model receives it. It's honestly not the model's fault. Top models generally answer every email (within reason). But there WILL be a time delay. :guitar

19) Party Chats: Some models enjoy them. Some don't. If you've never seen a model do a party chat or find that they RARELY do, it probably means that they prefer private/multi chat. Please understand this. On the flip side, some models PREFER party chat over private/multi-chat. Every model is different. Further, please don�t beg a model to �start a party chat�. Most top models understand this to mean, �I can�t/don�t want to spend credits and I just want a free show.� A more effective way to ASK a model to start a Party Chat is this: �If I tip 500 credits to �get the party� started, will you do a Party Chat?� See the subtle difference? In this way, a model knows that he will earn some credits from doing a Party Chat AND the member is not taking advantage of him & is trying to help. Again�it bears repeating�this is a business. Models need to earn credits in order to make money. :drinkup

20) Friendships: Believe it or not, most models (especially those at the top) consider many of their fans, FRIENDS! There are many men on the site that the moment they come into my room, I get really excited!!!! The same rules apply to friendships in real life as they do on Flirt--friendships take time to develop, they are full of mutual respect and the friendship is a 2-way street. :bulb

Friendships with my "top fans" make being a model on Flirt one of the most rewarding aspects to my time here. And I KNOW that I am not the only top-model that feels this way. And please do not tell a model, �I love you,� 14 seconds after meeting them in their room. It�s EXTREMELY creepy and generally will result in the model ignoring you. :orglaugh

I'm sure there are other things that I am forgetting, but these are my personal thoughts on how a member can better expect a PLEASANT positive experience with a model. I have a lot of fun with you guys and greatly appreciate everything that you do for me every single day on the site. Whether or not you are one of "my fans", I wish each of you a very positive experience on Flirt and hope that each of you find a few models that you come to enjoy and value. You guys are awesome!!!

Much love and friendship--Adam Foxx

PS�Please feel free to add to this list, based on your experiences. This thread is NOT to air grievances, disrespect models, disrespect other members or to disrespect VS/Flirt4Free. PLEASE keep this threat respectful, kind and productive.
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Created by: Harley Marie

7/18/11 @ 10:09am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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VS. Pllllease can we have this sticky thread on the straight forum TOOO

(LOVE IT!!!)

H.

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Created by: Adam Foxx

7/18/11 @ 9:16pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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VS. Pllllease can we have this sticky thread on the straight forum TOOO

(LOVE IT!!!)

H.

Thanks for the support, my dear Harley! You know I adore you! And thanks to Jacob & Tara as well !!! xoxo --AF

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Created by: eugenio68

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Thanks, Adam - I just love this guide. I've read it a few times - every few weeks or so actually - and, each time, I'm impressed all over again at how smart, thorough and thoughtful it is. (Indeed, each time I read it, I amuse myself with the silly fantasy of seeing different models explain a particular point in a little freebie PSA ala "The More You Know" campaign in the US.)

But it is a great service, especially for those members for whom doing right by the models is part of having a good time.

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Created by: Adam Foxx

7/23/11 @ 11:12pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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As a fun aside, whenever I give "how to" advice on the models' threads, I always sign off, *shooting star over a rainbow* The More You Know Da DA da DAAAAAAA. LOL :winkwink

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"As a fun aside, whenever I give "how to" advice on the models' threads, I always sign off, *shooting star over a rainbow* The More You Know Da DA da DAAAAAAA. LOL :winkwink

"

THAT is hilarious. Great minds... :orglaugh

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Created by: Sophie Foxx

7/29/11 @ 7:24pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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Couldnt of said it better myself :thumbsup

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Created by: Gino Puoli

8/2/11 @ 8:28am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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Dear Adam!

I could not get without coming here to write a few words ...

I do not know how to say thank you, you changed my life!

Read your manual really helped me a lot! In five days, I am among the most active 12%! Your fault! Really, really thank you! I wanted to give you a hug! You're the man!

I still get a little nervous when I turn on the camera, but it passes ...

That our network will grow and continue being the best and hottest!

Kisses and hugs from Brazil, in your heart!

Gino

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Created by: Adam Foxx

8/2/11 @ 3:08pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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Couldnt of said it better myself :thumbsup

Thanks Sophie! And if I may be so bold, may I just say that you have an AMAZING last name. :winkwink

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Created by: Adam Foxx

8/2/11 @ 3:09pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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xoxo --AF

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Thanks Johney! --AF

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Created by: Sophie Foxx

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Thanks Sophie! And if I may be so bold, may I just say that you have an AMAZING last name. :winkwink

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Lol!! My long lost brother

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Created by: Jack Steel

8/26/11 @ 11:18pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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Great job, Adam. I hope more people read up on this guide. Thanks for taking the time!

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Created by: Adam Foxx

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Great job, Adam. I hope more people read up on this guide. Thanks for taking the time!

My pleasure. :thumbsup

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Created by: Kristian

8/30/11 @ 3:23am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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Hey Adam,

Hope you are well. Unfortunately I am not YET in the top 20 models on Flirt4free ( lol), but I want to tell you that I really do like your guide....

Every and each member could read this before they visit us in our chat rooms....

Take care and once again well done.

xx Kriss .....

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Created by: Anwar D

9/9/11 @ 8:15am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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so actually this is a self centered , self advertising post...i am just making a resume for those who don't have the patience of reading the long long post

I must admit though there are some very good points stated in the begining good luck

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Created by: Andrew Drew

9/25/11 @ 8:47am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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Great post Adam :drinkup

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Created by: Sammy Longsworth

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Awesome post Adam! You said everything I was wishing the customers would understand. Very simple and sweet I love it! :D

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