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Created by: ophelias_rue

6/21/11 @ 2:39pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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I was thinking that my comments here about a model faking a cum shot might sound a bit unsympathetic. ...... And, as I said in another topic, I rather like soft cocks anyway.

I will never complain if a model tries and is unable to do a cum shot. However, I would be annoyed if a model ever did a fake cum shot. So far all the models I have seen in private and party chat have given lovely shows. Thanks all round. :drinkup

oh ronnie... ohhhhhh ronnie... *sigh* i just cannot resist.. perhaps this explains your obsession with the doorknobs in the site... i'm sorry.. but seriously.. saying that just opens you up for it... LOL.. shhh now don't get all upset please.. it's just a joke.. but tell me.. why are there now like 6 of these threads? wtf.. you are gonna make every male model really ANXIOUS about their performances.. and that won't make the site a better place you know.

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Created by: Basil Thompson

6/21/11 @ 3:56pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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I felt bad yesterday because I wasn't able to deliver one, but we still had a good time and I was assured it was enjoyable. :jerkoff

Some days just one is out of the question, and I couldn't in my wildest dreams imagine 11 in a 24-hour period. The most I ever hit was 5, when I was 17 and constantly horny :winkwink

And even 3 in a day makes it too sore to be touched. Hats off to guys who are built to squirt like that though! Blows my mind.

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Created by: phil_usa

6/21/11 @ 6:11pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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I felt bad yesterday because I wasn't able to deliver one, but we still had a good time and I was assured it was enjoyable. :jerkoff

Some days just one is out of the question, and I couldn't in my wildest dreams imagine 11 in a 24-hour period. The most I ever hit was 5, when I was 17 and constantly horny :winkwink

And even 3 in a day makes it too sore to be touched. Hats off to guys who are built to squirt like that though! Blows my mind.

Don't feel bad, it happens

When I was 17, a gentile breeze was all it took for me

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Created by: Basil Thompson

6/21/11 @ 6:27pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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Don't feel bad, it happens

When I was 17, a gentile breeze was all it took for me

Hahaha! Thank you. :winkwink

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Created by: photomanpa

5/26/12 @ 7:40pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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I think the real responsibility is on us to call the model out. IF they think they can get away with it why shouldn't more models do it. Calling the model out publicly makes a statement that we aren't going to take it. I would personally post a VIP forum post. That way the model cannot manipulate it. I have put the model's screen name in the heading: XXXXXX did a fake cum shot....
and put the date and approx. time with a caution to others to be on the alert.

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Created by: ronnie-uk

6/10/12 @ 8:36pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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This is the most popular VOD in the latest Daily VOD selection (June 3). So far 16 people have paid to watch it:

Daily VOD link

http://www.flirt4free.com/vip/members/daily-vod.php?a=view&recording_id=5719493

Regular link (added in response to following post)

http://www.flirt4free.com/vod/shows/5719493/

The cum shot looks very impressive on the story board, which may explain why the VOD is so popular. Also the VOD review shows the performer covered in "cum". However, it is not a cum shot. It is more of a "pretend" than a "fake", so perhaps that is not too bad...

I continue to love real cum shots, and to hate fake cum shots. I will always support a model who genuinely tries to do a cum shot, but I won't support the tiny minority of models who cheat. I also think they let down the reputation of all the other lovely models here on this wonderful site.

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Created by: totallybogus

6/10/12 @ 8:59pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Thanks for the heads up, Phil. Too bad one has to be VIP to know who's in the VOD.

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Created by: phil_usa

6/11/12 @ 10:02am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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...well, I just watched it ronnie. Whatever he held in his mouth for that long must have tasted ok!! :winkwink

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Created by: totallybogus

6/11/12 @ 10:37am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Thanks for the heads up, Phil. Too bad one has to be VIP to know who's in the VOD.

Oops! I mistook Phil for Ronnie! Apologies, gents. Still, who's in the VOD?

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Created by: phil_usa

6/11/12 @ 10:40am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Oops! I mistook Phil for Ronnie! Apologies, gents. Still, who's in the VOD?

...Just click on either of the links that ronnie has in his post and it will take you to his bio page.

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Created by: Nial Gee

6/11/12 @ 3:09pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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Anyone else had this happen??
After spending almost $100 for a private I get really pissed off when a model fakes the cum shot, and even more so when they deny it. With faster and faster connections it is REALLY EASY to see the difference between the real thing and the fake out and I have a very fast connection.
Cum does not fall from above, the most common mode of faking us out... hold the squeeze bottle/tube of "cum" above and out of the cam frame and at the "moment of truth" squeeze it and hope it falls in an appropriate area and that the actual fall is missed by the client because of frame speed/refresh rate etc. Each and every shot can be a "massive" load, and therein should lie your first clue to being duped. It really "blows the moment" so to speak and at these prices I don't expect cheap fakes. In some studios, a second "helper" is even employed to do the squirt. Wonder what their "cut" is?
I guess faking it "cums" with the territory but if they aren't up to the task, they should be on the $1.99 sites. :mad

LMAO well i have been on site for about 4 months and i realy did not know u get guys who fake their cum until now lol,i do know girls do it,but guys realy!! and maybe its cause i am stil new to f4f,but i am realy pasionate about what i do and i love meeting new people everyday and i cant think of ever haveing the thought of faking my cum to enyone ever.i had a member the one day that was so facinated with me we had 4 privates and i came in all 4 and just had some trouble geting it up the last two times,but i came and i loved it thought.so if you ever want a real live cumshot come visit my room and o yes my reviews speaks for itself hope to see you all soon.☺

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Created by: totallybogus

6/11/12 @ 3:27pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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...Just click on either of the links that ronnie has in his post and it will take you to his bio page.

Ohhh.Thanks, Phil. Ronnie amended his post and I didn't notice. He's so quick on the draw that he can even go back in time. Impressive!

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Created by: ronnie-uk

11/25/12 @ 7:49pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Location: London, UK
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New related point: I wish performers would give a clear view of their cum shots, to remove any suggestion that they are faking it.

In one or two Group Chats the performer zooms in too much, and the cum shot is not convincing.

In this private show VOD the performer zooms in so close that the tip of his cock is not visible when he does the cum shot. It left me undecided as to whether the cum shot was fake or not.

Daily VOD link:

http://www.flirt4free.com/vip/members/daily-vod.php?a=view&recording_id=6479045

Regular link:

http://www.flirt4free.com/vod/shows/6479045/

I am not saying the performer here did a fake cum shot, as I'm not completely sure. I am just saying that it would be so much better if he gave a clearer view in future to remove any doubts. A nice clear view of the cum shot also makes the high point of the show much more enjoyable.

Just my :twocents

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Created by: wonderboi2009

11/25/12 @ 8:09pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Well, this particular performer had a beyond-obviously-fake cum shot in a video that ended up in Daily VOD a week or so ago involving a bottle of lotion. And judging from what happened following apparently the member who took him private called him on it, but they seemed to be laughing about it. (I think he didn't take into account the video delay and was trying to do it when the member was looking away).

Anyway, you can judge for yourself whether this is a just a refinement of that technique or if this is a real cum shot. This performer and his studio need to get an obviously real cum shot in a VOD to clear his name.

And yes I agree that out-of-frame cum shots whether intentional or accidental raise questions that only hurt the performer's reputation, particularly if it happens more than once. Happily that has not been an issue with practically all of the guys I've taken private (and mentioned in the sexy skinny boys thread).

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Created by: male4622

11/26/12 @ 5:54pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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I think that was faked. Doesn't appear to come from his penis.

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Created by: wonderboi2009

11/29/12 @ 1:14am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Created by: Richard Cranium

11/30/12 @ 5:42pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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i cum at least twice a day on cam,, 3 shots a day is my daily goal,, if your tired of fakes come see me, for one i wont run up your bill and two i can guarantee you at least one cumshot a day

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Created by: Donnie B

12/1/12 @ 10:56am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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Sayin' it like it is... FUCK YOU IF YOU THINK IT'S FUCKING EASY!!! Just once I'd like to flip the script, and after 1.67 minutes, and only because their credits are running low, demand the customer bust a nut on command... Here's what it is, if you want to see my load for certain, put 30 minutes on your ticker and you've got yourself a deal... otherwise... I'll do my best to assess the situation, and not let you down... but if you "command" me to do so - I follow orders... and if there is simply no other way... FUCK YOU!!! I'm fakin' it, one way or another... And grow the fuck up!!! Perhaps if you asked nicely, such as "Hey... I only have 5 minutes left, you think you can cum soon?" I'd answer either "yes," or "no," or "maybe, but I can't say for sure..." and in such a case, that gives you an oppurtunity to save those 5 minutes worth of credits... But all-too-often it is not a sensual, sweet, mutual experience... It's brutal commands... And that simply isn't fair... This is a performance... Remember that folks... Where the customer has the oppurtunity to "control their own show..." If they can control their show, I reckon it's more than okay that we performers can control ours in order to accomodate... After all, you think when someone gets shot in the movies it's real blood... It's called squibs, and nobody better steal my idea, but I'm going to invent "cum-squibs" and end this debate once and for all... lol... I don't practice the art of fake cum-shots just so you know... but there has been a time or two when I felt the customer has left me no other choice... Most of us do the best we can, from what I've seen, so please try to see our side for a change... Sorry for the rant... Just a matter I feel strongly on

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Created by: ronnie-uk

12/1/12 @ 5:15pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Wow, Donnie. A hard-hitting post, and a lively contribution to the topic.

I think I agree with you if it is directed at the bad members who are demanding and unreasonable and simply treat the models as products to be purchased rather than as fellow human beings. If those kind of members were complaining about fakes in this topic, then your response would be perfect.

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Created by: Donnie B

12/2/12 @ 3:33am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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Wow, Donnie. A hard-hitting post, and a lively contribution to the topic.I think I agree with you if it is directed at the bad members who are demanding and unreasonable and simply treat the models as products to be purchased rather than as fellow human beings. If those kind of members were complaining about fakes in this topic, then your response would be perfect.

However, the members who have been posting here recently, including wonderboi, male4622 and Phil_USA (see Drew Asian's separate topic), are all good members who love the models here and respect them. I would be surprised if any models here have a bad word to say about any of these members. I would hope that I could include myself in that group.I have said here, and in related topics, that I will always support a model who tries. I won't support a model who cheats. Basically, it is best all round if members and models treat each other with respect and play fair.

lol... Funny you should mention that... Because I only read through the first few threads before I let my mind take over my reason and ran with it - and of course the more recent posts fall at the end (think this is highly confusing... Wouldn't it make more sense to post the "thread starter's" text first, and then go in descending order from most recent post to most distant ~ I don't know, just sayin...). I only noticed the fact that it was a retalitary response to posts from some 5 or so years ago!!! WTF!!! Sometimes I get a little ahead of myself... (total ooops emoticon) Anyway, thanks for not reaming me a new asshole (pun sooo fucking intended, lol) Ciao... Be Good

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