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Created by: ken_in_china

10/26/12 @ 11:09pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Location: Hong Kong
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Flirt4Free is certainly not the cheapest website of this type, and you wouldn't honestly expect it to be, BUT charging 100 and 120cpm is just outrageous, and I think I saw at least one male model's club membership at 1,200 credits a month! That's roughly US$120! I mean, sure, models can charge "what the market will bear" (or bare), but could we please have a return to sanity?

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Created by: tylersaint

10/26/12 @ 11:24pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Created by: ken_in_china

10/27/12 @ 8:09am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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I think models should be able to charge what they want, and why change if they are sucessful? If their earned credits start to fall due to charging to much, they will adjust or simply see their income suffer.

For me, I have a limit on what I am willing to pay regardless of who the model is. There are many models I would like to have a show with, but instead visit other models I can afford.

I'm just appealing to the models (in general) to show a little common sense. Sure, they can charge whatever they want, but isn't five shows at 60cpm better than one at 100?

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Created by: Luk A

10/27/12 @ 10:48am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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Free show is better

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Created by: chinmusic

10/27/12 @ 11:22am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Free show is better

Hold that thought. I'll be right over :orglaugh

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Created by: .jeffie.

10/27/12 @ 11:22am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Location: Brisbane, Australia

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isn't five shows at 60cpm better than one at 100?

Yes, but isn't five shows at 100 cpm better than five shows at 60 cpm?

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Created by: Luk A

10/27/12 @ 11:53am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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Hold that thought. I'll be right over :orglaugh

yeah come here i'll show u my chin

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Created by: Paul Atreides

10/27/12 @ 3:52pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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Yes, but isn't five shows at 100 cpm better than five shows at 60 cpm?

Assuredly, no.

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Created by: ballycallan

10/27/12 @ 4:22pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Location: Ireland
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yeah come here i'll show u my chin

Best Chin on Flirt !!

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Created by: chinmusic

10/27/12 @ 4:30pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Best Chin on Flirt !!

Thanks, Bally :winkwink

Oh wait.. you meant Luk

Damn...lol

And I agree, one of Luk's many attributes...

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Created by: chinmusic

10/27/12 @ 4:33pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Best Chin on Flirt !!

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Created by: nomad_

10/27/12 @ 4:52pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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It's basic supply and demand..... High demand and the models charge higher prices.... Demand falls.... Models charge less to try to increase demand. Praise Capitalism!! :twocents

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Created by: chinmusic

10/27/12 @ 5:00pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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It's basic supply and demand..... High demand and the models charge higher prices.... Demand falls.... Models charge less to try to increase demand. Praise Capitalism!! :twocents

Ken is taking umbrage with the "inflated sense of worth", rather than the principles of supply and demand. That was implicit in his comment.

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Created by: nomad_

10/27/12 @ 6:15pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Ken is taking umbrage with the "inflated sense of worth", rather than the principles of supply and demand. That was implicit in his comment.

His Topic refers to an "Inflated Sense of Worth", I assume he is refering in the topic to a sense of worth that is instilled in the models by their fans who are willing to pay premium rates for the services rendered. His Comment however refers to basic principles of Supply and demand. Saying that the models will charge what the market will bear is in fact S&D 101. What is implicit is not so clear. Therefore my comment above is apropos to the body of his comment.

If customers are not willing to pay the premium prices then there are plenty of other models on the site that charge less and are happy for your support. I myself would not pay 120 credits per minute for a pvt show, but I will not begrudge any model who asks 120 credits for their time and services.If they can keep up the demand for what they supply then more power to em.

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Created by: jayden_jaymes

10/28/12 @ 10:12pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Location: Los Angeles, USA
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If you dont like the price. Dont visit the model.

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Created by: ronnie-uk

10/28/12 @ 11:01pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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I agree with the comments here that models can set their rates according to supply and demand, which is the best solution.

Nice anecdote: I found myself doing a number of Group Chats with a model who often charges 120 cpm. I actually did a short (3 minute) private show with him at that rate. However, next time he offered to do a 10 minute cum show for only 40 cpm. It was wonderful.

Another thought: we all have different tastes, and there are a number of models that I would not choose to spend any credits on. I could imagine one of the top models thinking "If he can get 60 cpm I should be able to get 600 cpm". So 120 cpm may not be too inflated in some cases.

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Created by: Eduardo Diaz

10/29/12 @ 1:23am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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Well, if you feel a model is charging too high a price, you could always try messaging them and asking if they be willing to do a show for X amount of minutes at Ycpm.

See what they say, you never know

just my

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Created by: tuffenuff7

10/29/12 @ 6:02am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Location: laguna beach, ca
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Edwardo your brilliant, and that is the right answer. Not that anyone wants to start an Ebay Flirt site, but I know many folks who are struggling right now on both sides of the tip sheet. Sometimes we forget to simply offer what you can and see if it makes you both happy.

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Created by: Jake Trenton

10/29/12 @ 9:37am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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just my

Yeah, this is a good way to go about things. Some models are willing to lower their CPM rate depending on, not just the length of the show, but also the type of show. It's just an issue of resource management for many models.

Preexisting relationships can be a factor worth considering as well. If you regularly do shows at 60 CPM with a model for a couple of months, they might be willing to keep that rate for you after they increase it for everyone else, according to demand.

I'd HIGHLY recommend that members either whisper or send an email to models when requesting a rate change. Calling into question a model's rate in open chat is not the most polite approach.

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Created by: Mhiguel Anghel

10/30/12 @ 12:55pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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I admire many models here which have many abilities and personalities and I think if they feel that the amount they charge per minute is prefect for them, I would not disagree and respect his determination to adjust certain cpm, actually decicion is respectable individual subject but I would suggest not only the top models can offer incredible shows (as I said before, I respect those performers), I mean that there is a great variety and a high range of different types of models with different characteristics. :winkwink

In conclusion, just as personal view, I would suggest checking models whose value is more modest for you and give us the opportunity to show our worth as new models, like you do with the old school and respected legends from the site :bowdown

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