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Male Performer Chat: model bans chatters who don't tip

Created by: pistol

2/9/14 @ 10:19am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Created by: Zeras Kiperion

2/9/14 @ 10:54am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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My pet peeve lately is a model who is very successful, and somewhat greedy in my eyes. what he's saying in his party chats is "i'm banning/kicking out the non-tippers!!" Not sure thats in the best interests of the site. I mean some of us don't always have credits. Just my take, what do you people think?

It is frustrating for us when we have regular 'mutes' come in. No matter how much we try to communicate, they do not respond; they never tip, pledge to group chats or private. In this case, a ban or ejection is warranted.

In the case of party chats, if your party chat has been sustained by a few customers FOR A WHILE, it is not fair for good customers to basically pay the way for freeloaders. I have seen rooms full of customers during party chats when only a few customers tip. They stop tipping, because no one else is tipping. It would be typical of a model to make a note of members who frequent their room, have no intention of ever getting credits, and simply camp waiting for the moment someone tips or we decide to show. As much as we might persuade them to purchase credits, their motives are clear. A ban or ejection is warranted.

We are here to have fun, connect socially with people and, of course, make money. Remember that though you might be feeling some type of way on a given day, this is a business: and a prime rule of business is to generate profit. To answer you directly, we cannot profit from members who do not tip, or show no intention of ever tipping after some period of time; especially when we have made strong measures to entice them into doing so.

I understand that this might sound harsh; but that is not the intention. I am simply stating the reality of this business.

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Created by: toppgun

2/9/14 @ 11:08am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Highly suggest if a model goes party chat and you have no tips to offer....leave :twocents

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Created by: zyxwv098

2/9/14 @ 1:15pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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pistol, I would have to agree with Mr. Kiperion's take of the situation, and toppgun's solution is a very reasonable one. The one caveat I would offer is that a member who does not have credits now might have credits later, and a party chat is a good way for a new visitor to "sample" and see if he might become a regular at another time. However, a non-tipping member should also not be making requests, and it is this kind of member that should be noted and ejected from the room.

A non-tipping member might be allowed to stay, up to a point...but if this same member keeps returning each time the model has a party chat and does nothing each time, then it is obvious he is there only for the free show and should be requested to either tip, leave voluntarily, of risk being ejected.

I think I may know which model you are referring to, pistol, as I recall witnessing something akin to what you described. I do not know if it is the same incident, but what I saw was a member making a few pointed, negative comments about the model, all without offering a single tip...not that tipping ever gives a member the right to criticize a model! But, the lack of tipping did offer the model a reasonable excuse to kick the member out of the party chat, but in a general, non-specific way.

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Created by: Tim J

2/9/14 @ 1:29pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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It is frustrating for us when we have regular 'mutes' come in. No matter how much we try to communicate, they do not respond; they never tip, pledge to group chats or private. In this case, a ban or ejection is warranted.

In the case of party chats, if your party chat has been sustained by a few customers FOR A WHILE, it is not fair for good customers to basically pay the way for freeloaders. I have seen rooms full of customers during party chats when only a few customers tip. They stop tipping, because no one else is tipping. It would be typical of a model to make a note of members who frequent their room, have no intention of ever getting credits, and simply camp waiting for the moment someone tips or we decide to show. As much as we might persuade them to purchase credits, their motives are clear. A ban or ejection is warranted.

We are here to have fun, connect socially with people and, of course, make money. Remember that though you might be feeling some type of way on a given day, this is a business: and a prime rule of business is to generate profit. To answer you directly, we cannot profit from members who do not tip, or show no intention of ever tipping after some period of time; especially when we have made strong measures to entice them into doing so.

I understand that this might sound harsh; but that is not the intention. I am simply stating the reality of this business.

thats great! and i agree with you]! lot of custimers come for some special service we havefor them! but more than it! i see this how a good way to know new people, i dont like call the customers, cuz they are friends and i apreciatte them! so please basic or kind of guys who ome for free shoul run away!

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Created by: stinks

2/9/14 @ 2:38pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Highly suggest if a model goes party chat and you have no tips to offer....leave :twocents

when I put up my last 500 for my friend to get a group chat I think it ok to be at his party chat
with no tip
:drinkup

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Created by: Sencer

2/9/14 @ 3:29pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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Highly suggest if a model goes party chat and you have no tips to offer....leave :twocents

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Created by: toppgun

2/9/14 @ 4:10pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Stinks...without writing a full length book about every possible scenario...it was just a general statement. :smoking

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Created by: Sencer

2/9/14 @ 4:43pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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Stinks...without writing a full length book about every possible scenario...it was just a general statement. :smoking

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Created by: John Reyy

2/9/14 @ 5:52pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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Highly suggest if a model goes party chat and you have no tips to offer....leave :twocents

Oh toppgun , if all can think like you I will have my smile on face even if I sleep!!!

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Created by: zyxwv098

2/9/14 @ 6:11pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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toppgun is very right from my opinion..its a very big turn off for models who host parties..when they have a room of 40 registered users and they recive tipping only from 2 or even less...i understood the fact that from 40 half of them could be broke...but no one said we demands to be tipped with over 50 credits per every customer....i had times when i had ppl witch had more then 100 credits. ( been watched their stats) ..and they didn`t send not even 5 credit tip on the party..but they were chat and demand things or they said they enjoy the party...witch as i said its a big turn off for us...to be honest i go to party chat only when i m in mood to jerk off for free...because that`s what happen mostly on the party chats...on another order..just from my personal perspective party chat is the most shity option for us...but that was just my personal opinion.

Sencer, as best as I can recall I have not been to your room, but all the serious and thoughtful comments you have posted on various forum threads have been impressive in their insight, depth of perception, and consideration of the subject as well as the other posters. I agree that party chat is really not the best option for any of you. Even those that manage to have reasonably profitable party chats are heavily reliant on only a relative handful of members who tip regularly and often while the rest of the crowd sits in silence or makes unreasonable or inappropriate requests.

I do not know if there is any good solution to the problem of non-tippers during party chats. Some have been proposed in other threads, but none seem likely to be 100% effective. If I understand it correctly, models can only ban so many members before risking fines. There is no way to shut out non-tipping members the way grey guest-users can be shut out. Your use of party chat seems to be a very logical use for it, even if it is not particularly profitable.

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Created by: Sencer

2/9/14 @ 6:24pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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Sencer, as best as I can recall I have not been to your room, but all the serious and thoughtful comments you have posted on various forum threads have been impressive in their insight, depth of perception, and consideration of the subject as well as the other posters. I agree that party chat is really not the best option for any of you. Even those that manage to have reasonably profitable party chats are heavily reliant on only a relative handful of members who tip regularly and often while the rest of the crowd sits in silence or makes unreasonable or inappropriate requests.

I do not know if there is any good solution to the problem of non-tippers during party chats. Some have been proposed in other threads, but none seem likely to be 100% effective. If I understand it correctly, models can only ban so many members before risking fines. There is no way to shut out non-tipping members the way grey guest-users can be shut out. Your use of party chat seems to be a very logical use for it, even if it is not particularly profitable.

first of all,ur welcome in my room any time u`ll get the chance..and lets hope u`ll enjoy some chat in my company..then..getting back on our problem..i think the only one that can do something about the party would be the media stuff..i think is a problem that is over our power as performers/customers...i think best way for this option on our softwear would be the idea of members would have to pay at least a minimum amount so they can enter to the party..like 20 credits or stuff like this...then they would be able to watch these 10 mins that are first and they should decide by their self if they wanna keep tipping or not...and if the performer get the exactly amount that can keep going that party..they should be able to watch for free the rest of the party or tip the model and that would be a fair deal......i think 20 credits per enter in a party would be more then fair...anyway..this is a problem that is over my power and i m not willing to propose anything to any media vs stuff...so good luck in solving this problems guys...because for me the only resolve for this problem was to decide to take party chats only when i`m in mood to jerk off for free

)) ...so ..as i said..good luck with this.

btw sorry for off-topic !!! tweet meee @Sencer_F4F! :bowdown

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Created by: stinks

2/9/14 @ 6:25pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Stinks...without writing a full length book about every possible scenario...it was just a general statement. :smoking

toppgun I knew what you meant I was just having fun like I do in the rooms

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Created by: toppgun

2/9/14 @ 6:34pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Thats what this site is all about is having fun and i do the same :drinkup

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Created by: stinks

2/9/14 @ 6:43pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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Thats what this site is all about is having fun and i do the same :drinkup

I know you do

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Created by: stinks

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btw sorry for off-topic !!! tweet meee @Sencer_F4F! :bowdown

please for give me I am not sorry for going off-topic :bowdown

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Created by: olddad12

2/10/14 @ 11:21am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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maybe a solution is to enter a a party you must at least give 10 credits min like the group chat has a 50 credit min.

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Created by: Sencer

2/10/14 @ 11:42am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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maybe a solution is to enter a a party you must at least give 10 credits min like the group chat has a 50 credit min.

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Created by: Adonis Steel

2/10/14 @ 1:11pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

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yes sencer i think like that to is 40 customers are in the room and just 1 give tips and all ebjoy party is no t corect ..

so all tips are good if all will dent 10, 25 or more that is no t important just show some respect for efort if you are a member and like what you see :d

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Created by: ronnie-uk

2/10/14 @ 2:01pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
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maybe a solution is to enter a a party you must at least give 10 credits min like the group chat has a 50 credit min.

I was thinking along the same lines, olddad :thumbsup

However, the minimum group chat pledge can now be 10 credits (previously 50). So group chat already provides the opportunity to do a show where everyone has at least made the minimum contribution.

I saw Justin Master do this very successfully a week or so ago. The 10 credit pledges flooded in very quickly.

Switching to group chat is certainly more friendly, and less hassle for the performer, than the banning option :twocents

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