I think this website need some kind of revolt,few years ago there was only standard pvt 60c/p ..nowadays ppl don`t bother to pay not even a tip of 10 credits as respect for a model that do a 10 min hard party show..and yeah..I know i`ve been like a curse for some ppl around...haunting them for like so many years and i don`t even look like a porno star (most of performers that been around for so long they either look like porno stars either they need physique assistance every now and ever...so i guess most of you guys will just ignore the post..but seriously...i know its the human nature, Everything that is cheap or even free is good,but that`s a trick that going make most of you feel miserable one day...a lot of good performers were left because of this new standards...and many more will do so...there won`t be any performers left that you guys could make a friendship with,only ppl that know how to get their cocks up for 10 credits and they will trick you that he cummed in 1 min and 20 seconds on the command ...with God know what trick....so i wonder,how many of you really want this to happen? respect its a two ways road ..please don`t bother if you just want to reply to critique my english ,yeah its not my natural language, yeah i don`t speak it perfect,so what? be welcome to chat with me in romanian if so...that`s all i had to say . Quote

Sencer .. I've seen your photos and VOD's and, let's face it .. you are not the sexy young stud you once were. Maybe it is time for you to stop your constant complaining and just move on ....

Just my Quote

I try to steer clear of party shows...it's discouraging to see how many cheap people there are that just want a free show and aren't even willing to tip 10 or 25 credits...I've seen several party shows where there are about 100 people in the room and barely anyone tipping...just give 10 credits per person (practically nothing) and there's 1000 credits, but it doesn't happen. I would rather stick to group shows where you know that instead of a party ending in frustration, there will be a cumshot and I don't feel I am carrying a bunch of freeloaders along with me unfortunately seems like a lot of models struggle lately to get their goal to even have a group anymore. okay, that's the end of my rant, next person Quote

In the past, I have suggested to the website that a party chat require an entrance fee (like a cover charge at a club) so that no freeloaders will be allowed into the party but, my suggestion was shot down. I still think it is a good idea. Like the previous poster said, even 10 credits each adds up as more people enter the party. Maybe the models should get together and demand this feature be added - maybe they will get a better response than I did. Quote

I have serious issue with tipping. Do we owe it to the models? If we have requests yes maybe but if none then it is up to us if we will give or not.

In the past, I have suggested to the website that a party chat require an entrance fee (like a cover charge at a club) so that no freeloaders will be allowed into the party but, my suggestion was shot down. I still think it is a good idea. Like the previous poster said, even 10 credits each adds up as more people enter the party. Maybe the models should get together and demand this feature be added - maybe they will get a better response than I did.


i like the idea Quote

Sencer .. I've seen your photos and VOD's and, let's face it .. you are not the sexy young stud you once were. Maybe it is time for you to stop your constant complaining and just move on ....

Just my


why is the number of your posts is not showing? Quote

Sencer .. I've seen your photos and VOD's and, let's face it .. you are not the sexy young stud you once were. Maybe it is time for you to stop your constant complaining and just move on ....

Just my

beauty is in the eye of the beholder

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In the past, I have suggested to the website that a party chat require an entrance fee (like a cover charge at a club) so that no freeloaders will be allowed into the party but, my suggestion was shot down. I still think it is a good idea. Like the previous poster said, even 10 credits each adds up as more people enter the party. Maybe the models should get together and demand this feature be added - maybe they will get a better response than I did.


Great idea!!!!!....but that will make a lot of members disappear!
Models will make even less because it would be mandatory to pay a certain sum...
I don't care for party chats,semi privates or whatever other new
things they have come up with so..
For me is either PRIVATE shows or nothing.
I'm doing so since they were $2 a minute,privates ONLY.
Why would I go into a room with 68 individuals gawking and
wanking to pay 50 or 100 credits while 68 to 75 other guys
watch for free??? UHuhuh??..not my idea of fun!!!
Models determine themselves the kind of show they want to
have and as such the kind of clientele they will get.
I feel those shows like party chats and semi privates
are like the strippers do in a club that depend on the
generosity of the patrons so the models are getting what
they bargain for. ....members are NOT obligated to pay.
It would be nice if they do but....c'est la vie!!
Naturally models are NOT obligated to stay either and thousands
give up after a few weeks or days......
Of course the majority of viewers want everything for FREE!!...
By nature people are trying to get the most out of something or the
"best deal" mentality as it were.....

After all the name of the site used to be and still is FLIRT4FREE.COM...RIGHT?
so flirting IS 4 free!!!! Right???...but most models no longer flirt anymore...
a lost art for several years now...now you must pay or be banned... :-((((((
Like I say: I only do privates so no skin off my nose!!!
Someone speaks of a Revolution here but members,models and visitors will
never agree in money matters and work services... :-)))

And that is just my ( no offense models!!! but YOU choose the
kind of shows you want to do and your fee, as well as the "members seating
around not responding,tipping or whatever".. ...)
One of the most important things a model must have is THICK SKIN,great memory
and lots of patience as well as working long crazy hours WITH A HUGE SMILE ON your FACE....
all the busiest,oldest and best paid models still do!!! and some
of them it's almost impossible to get a private at all.
Again...just my opinion and my
The decay of the clientele is due to the lack of consideration to each others.
and in times when money is tight it is worse for all...
wE SHOULD GO BACK TO THE TIMES WHEN 24 A 38 MODELS WAS SUFFICIENT AND O
ALL WERE GREAT GUYS WELL TRAINED AND ALWAYS HAPPY BESIDE SUPER MUSCULAR,SEXY,SMILING, SAND ;-WILLING TO BE THE ONLY ROOSTER IN IL CORRAL....SO THAT WOULD'VE A REAL REVOLUTION. REVOLUTION QUE COSTARA MAS DE LO QUE PUEDE PRDUCIR
jUST MY ..javascript:insertEmoticon('');.
i WISH YOU ALL THE VERY BEST GUYS!!! Quote

Sencer .. I've seen your photos and VOD's and, let's face it .. you are not the sexy young stud you once were. Maybe it is time for you to stop your constant complaining and just move on ....

Just my


You hit the nail on the head honey bb! Quote

I MADE THE SAME RECOMMENDATION SEVERAL WEEKS AGO. I WAS DELETED BY ADMINISTRATION. I DIDN'T USE 'MOVE ON' , BUT 'RETIRE', A LITTLE BLUNT. SORRY DEAR. WE HAVE TO FACE IT .EACH ONE OF US. Quote

why is the number of your posts is not showing?
BECAUSE FLIRT PROTECTS OLD TIMERS. THAT'S IT.



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I think this website need some kind of revolt,few years ago there was only standard pvt 60c/p ..nowadays ppl don`t bother to pay not even a tip of 10 credits as respect for a model that do a 10 min hard party show..and yeah..I know i`ve been like a curse for some ppl around...haunting them for like so many years and i don`t even look like a porno star (most of performers that been around for so long they either look like porno stars either they need physique assistance every now and ever...so i guess most of you guys will just ignore the post..but seriously...i know its the human nature, Everything that is cheap or even free is good,but that`s a trick that going make most of you feel miserable one day...a lot of good performers were left because of this new standards...and many more will do so...there won`t be any performers left that you guys could make a friendship with,only ppl that know how to get their cocks up for 10 credits and they will trick you that he cummed in 1 min and 20 seconds on the command ...with God know what trick....so i wonder,how many of you really want this to happen? respect its a two ways road ..please don`t bother if you just want to reply to critique my english ,yeah its not my natural language, yeah i don`t speak it perfect,so what? be welcome to chat with me in romanian if so...that`s all i had to say .


Perhaps it is not so much that the site is at fault for changing things, as it is that the membership has changed, and the site and models have had to change in response in order to survive. I have not been on the site as long as others, but over the past two years I have noticed that members have become more demanding and expect to have their requests fulfilled immediately, even without up-front tips. When models decline or ask for a tip first, these members leave and go looking for a model who will give them what they want...and unfortunately all too often find a new model who doesn't know any better who shows it all off in hopes of receiving a promised tip. This, of course, lowers the standard site-wide.

I don't know if there's a solution to this dilemma...but you are right, if this continues, it will be next to impossible to build a friendly relationship with a model.

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Sencer .. I've seen your photos and VOD's and, let's face it .. you are not the sexy young stud you once were. Maybe it is time for you to stop your constant complaining and just move on ....

Just my



The post wasn`t about my situation...i made enough credits to pay the rent and cover other things i need,without these parties..i was talking about the standards of the website my friend,and btw .its called life,no one stays young forever...some ppl might argue with you about me being beauty or not..that`s a conversation about each and everyone taste . .I guess if i do hurt a little to type english without to many mistakes ppl these days going to slap me in the face with my age,yay..i know..i`m not 19y/o..as i said. the post was about the standards of the website,not about my room..i have been watch others rooms as well before I made this posting...and most of the parties goes by the same standards. people just enjoy free shows..but they don`t bother to respect the model work not even with 10 credits. Quote

i like the idea



i never ask someone to tip unless he request something,and usually even if someone request i don`t bother to ask..if i`m in mood to accomplish someone demands that don`t tip,i do it ,if I m not i simply ignore it..anyway ..when like 10 registered regulars come into my room each and every party i make (3 times in raw) and then watch without even saying hello or throw any tip if i`m hard,and when i move the cam away from my cock they go away) i think it`s a thing about this website standard,. Quote

I try to steer clear of party shows...it's discouraging to see how many cheap people there are that just want a free show and aren't even willing to tip 10 or 25 credits...I've seen several party shows where there are about 100 people in the room and barely anyone tipping...just give 10 credits per person (practically nothing) and there's 1000 credits, but it doesn't happen. I would rather stick to group shows where you know that instead of a party ending in frustration, there will be a cumshot and I don't feel I am carrying a bunch of freeloaders along with me unfortunately seems like a lot of models struggle lately to get their goal to even have a group anymore. okay, that's the end of my rant, next person



yep sam,You describe exactly what i`ve talked about. Quote

beauty is in the eye of the beholder





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I MADE THE SAME RECOMMENDATION SEVERAL WEEKS AGO. I WAS DELETED BY ADMINISTRATION. I DIDN'T USE 'MOVE ON' , BUT 'RETIRE', A LITTLE BLUNT. SORRY DEAR. WE HAVE TO FACE IT .EACH ONE OF US.



yay,you made a special post for me? wish administrator would not remove it, It`s a big honour to know i finally got to p1ss off some ppl around,it means I finally found my design. btw I didn`t had chance to get to know you yet,you`re welcome in my room for a little chat , i promise to be gentile,and i promise it won`t hurt at all


P.S: to disappoint all my "fans" ..don`t worry about me,i got in a top 20 % top active performers after only 4 days of a period..so as i said once again to be clear for everyone , the post its not about my room,the post its about website standards,and yeah i know i need alot of nuts to keep this post,because some of my friends that regular chat with me on here did advice me not to post this or i will offend alot of ppl that really enjoy the new standards..but i wonder,will the rest of you going to be pleased when all models will react only for 10,20 credits to stand or to even chat? if the website will keep going into this direction? Quote

Perhaps it is not so much that the site is at fault for changing things, as it is that the membership has changed, and the site and models have had to change in response in order to survive. I have not been on the site as long as others, but over the past two years I have noticed that members have become more demanding and expect to have their requests fulfilled immediately, even without up-front tips. When models decline or ask for a tip first, these members leave and go looking for a model who will give them what they want...and unfortunately all too often find a new model who doesn't know any better who shows it all off in hopes of receiving a promised tip. This, of course, lowers the standard site-wide.

I don't know if there's a solution to this dilemma...but you are right, if this continues, it will be next to impossible to build a friendly relationship with a model.





wow! is this real? someone trully understood the point of my posting! I owe you a free show for that,and I`m not joking about ...anytime when you got time come in my room and i`ll give you a free show for that...if ur interested! seems ur unique around! X_x Quote

You hit the nail on the head honey bb!



Don`t worry Sir_ken i`m ranked on 20 % top active performers in less then 5 days of work... but thanks for being worried for me,it`s called humanity ,didn`t expect you to have any! Kisses,XoXo Quote

Don`t worry Sir_ken i`m ranked on 20 % top active performers in less then 5 days of work... but thanks for being worried for me,it`s called humanity ,didn`t expect you to have any! Kisses,XoXo


oh... WUT!!!!!!!? REEEEllLy? thats so great to be part of 20% top active performers.. thats.. such a wonderful accomplishment in your life brag it all you want

who said im worried, what part of my post shows worry over you.. none. you wish Quote